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Post by Constantine Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:42 pm

I was wondering if there are any discusions about the Black Library's Grey Knight trilogy study

I personally really enjoyed them and would be interested in hearing what my Brother's thought of them.
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Post by Klomster Fri Jun 06, 2008 4:07 am

I have read the first (almost twice, reading for the 2'nd time at the moment) and found it very sweet and cozy!
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Post by The Legionnaire Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:31 am

Moved to General Dicussion Smile
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Post by SIRSEAN Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:40 am

novels about GK????

man!, I realy have to look more deep in amazon.com!

are good novels?
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Post by Klomster Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:58 am

They are from black library, might be heard too get the first ones i've heard though.
But i'm not sure!

They are nice, at least the first one!
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Post by Constantine Fri Jun 06, 2008 6:07 pm

In my opinion Brother Klomster the first one is the best. I love the opening on the Daemon world Twisted Evil !!!!
The second one Dark Adeptus Is...ok.
But the third Hammer of Daemons is right back up to speed and is an awesome read (that rhymes Laughing )
I hope you enjoy the Dark Adeptus

Happy reading study


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Post by Spartan Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:13 am

Constantine I would have to agree with you on all 3 comments.
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Post by The Legionnaire Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:21 am

I havn't read the books yet, I've bought them, but not yet read them. So no spoilers please Very Happy.
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Post by Constantine Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:48 am

LOL Laughing
No problem
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Post by Justicar Dionitas Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:15 pm

Dredging this post back up (I've been gone for awhile) I'd have to say Hammer of Daemons was the best. I'm reaaaaallly interested to find out what's next *wink *wink*
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Post by NemesisForce Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:32 pm

If anybody has read the Space Wolves novels how do the Grey Knight ones stack up against them writing and storywise?
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Post by Justicar Dionitas Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:16 pm

NemesisForce wrote:If anybody has read the Space Wolves novels how do the Grey Knight ones stack up against them writing and storywise?

Hard to say really. William King was one of the better writers. After him the new guy (Forgot his name) Wrote the one after Wolfblade. It was trash. This last one was really good though.
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Post by Constantine Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:45 pm

If anybody has read the Space Wolves novels how do the Grey Knight ones stack up against them writing and storywise?

I would have to say that the space wolf novels are a close second to the GK trilogy study
They are written really well and are a pleasure to read.
The last one is a bit of a tear jerker Sad

Dredging this post back up (I've been gone for awhile) I'd have to say Hammer of Daemons was the best. I'm reaaaaallly interested to find out what's next *wink *wink*

It seems like they keep hinting at Alaric becoming an Inquisitor scratch
Is that the impresion you guys get?
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Post by Klomster Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:37 am

A grey knight becoming inquisitor???

That doesn't comply? Inquisitors are human, not marines!
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Post by Brother-Captain Validi Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:45 am

Maybe he's going to become a Terminator but I don't really know about this, having not read the books. (Why am I even saying anything?)
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Post by The Legionnaire Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:05 am

Brother-Captain Validi wrote:Maybe he's going to become a Terminator but I don't really know about this, having not read the books. (Why am I even saying anything?)

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Post by Klomster Thu Jun 19, 2008 11:08 am

This does put me into a question though?

Does Alaric have power or terminator armour?

He is promoted to brother captain, but is only a justicar in the beginning, it is unclear in the first book!

Maybe he gets one later cos it's only termies on the front page arts (as i see it)
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Post by Constantine Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:06 pm

A grey knight becoming inquisitor???

That doesn't comply? Inquisitors are human, not marines!

I know it sounds wierd, but the novels always focus on how Alaric is able to think for himself, and hinting that he is destined for something bigger (I SAY HERESY!!!!! to that point, I can't think of a bigger honor than being Grey Knight!!! But thats just me Very Happy ).
Also it is mentioned that because of Alaric's free thought, promotions are unlikely, which lead me to think that inquisitor was an option Suspect I can't really think of any other options.....A GK wouldn't become part of a retinue would he scratch

Oh well, I gues all we can do is wait for the next instalment!!!
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Post by Klomster Fri Jun 20, 2008 3:52 am

A grey knight destined for something bigger, then i would say he would become....... A GRAND MASTER!!!!!

Grand master = Ultimate Pwn. As a computer games nerd (kinda like me) would have said.

Seriously, can a man become greater than a grand master?
Maybe becoming custodes master.

Not much else that is greater!


Alaric always gets too hear that he must face many trials before becoming higher rank, but everyone is just talking about his future as an officer, kinda, so i would think that great future is becoming grand master.

Grand master Alaric, has a nice touch to it.
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Post by Constantine Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:18 am

Grand master Alaric
That does have a nice ring to it, doesn't it Very Happy
It might just be my misinterpretsation of the novels, but I got the feeling that the author was hinting at something outside of the Chapter scratch . I know this theory doesn't fit with the 40K fluff though....hhmmmmm...... scratch
I am planning on reading the novels over again soon so maybe the rereads will clarify things for me sunny
Does Alaric have power or terminator armour?
The answer brother, is no. Alaric works closely with Brother Tankred in the first novel who is a GKT, but retains his PAGK status throughout the entier trilogy.
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Post by Justicar Dionitas Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:47 pm

Alaric could never be a Custodes. They're genetically stonger than Marines or GK.

It would be perfectly plausible for Alaric to become an inquisitor.

What he went through in Hammer of Daemons was THE ultimate test.
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Post by Justicar Alaric Sat Jun 21, 2008 4:13 pm

Justicar Alaric....(HE!!! That's me!)

erh.....back on topic...

Alaric has allways put the Imperium, the Holy God-Emperor (blessed be his name) and every ounce of faith he has into being a protector of humankind. That and just that single purpose and singular thinking has made Alaric a Grey Knight to become a Grey Knight Terminator (althought his Psychic Abilities don't even come close to those of Brother-Captain Dvorn) and maybe, maybe....if he lives long enough... he could even become a Grand Master. But still, what makes Brother Justicar Alaric such a great asset to the Grey Kngihts Chapter is his singular purpose, and that is never, ever, to stop fighting for the duration of the Imperium!

And you, every Brother of our honoured Grey Knights Chapter, listen carefully to my words,

Be strong in mind and body,
destroy the heretic,
burn the witch,
kill the mutant,
Despair not the daemon,
for they are nothing against our faith,
our faith is the Emperor,
the Emperor is undying,
undying is our faith!

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Post by Constantine Sat Jun 21, 2008 9:12 pm

Be strong in mind and body,
destroy the heretic,
burn the witch,
kill the mutant,
Despair not the daemon,
for they are nothing against our faith,
our faith is the Emperor,
the Emperor is undying,
undying is our faith!

Nice Brother,

Alaric is not a Terminator.
His faith has never been an issue either. It his "thinking outside of the box" that has prevented him from progressing further in the holy ranks of the Grey Knights.
I believe if a GK can go through the trials that Alaric faced in Hammer of Daemons and remain true, then none can question his faith. However there is always an underlying theme in the novels that Alaric is somehow apart from his brothers, this is what I am trying to understand scratch
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Post by Justicar Dionitas Sun Jun 22, 2008 12:18 am

Constantine wrote:
Be strong in mind and body,
destroy the heretic,
burn the witch,
kill the mutant,
Despair not the daemon,
for they are nothing against our faith,
our faith is the Emperor,
the Emperor is undying,
undying is our faith!

Nice Brother,

Alaric is not a Terminator.
His faith has never been an issue either. It his "thinking outside of the box" that has prevented him from progressing further in the holy ranks of the Grey Knights.
I believe if a GK can go through the trials that Alaric faced in Hammer of Daemons and remain true, then none can question his faith. However there is always an underlying theme in the novels that Alaric is somehow apart from his brothers, this is what I am trying to understand scratch

What people don't realize (Especially the ones who haven't read the book) is that Alaric needs to be uhhh thoroughly checked and tested.
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Post by Constantine Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:09 pm

Alaric spends a lot of time with the Grey Knight's Chaplain, if there was any hint of taint on him besides his Khorn brand LOL!! Very Happy
then it would be detected.
I shouldn't need to remind you that not a single Grey Knight has ever fallen.
Keep the faith Brother, Alaric is still with us. cheers
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