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Grand Strategy and allies

Post by Rivan on Sun Jul 08, 2012 6:20 pm

Not sure if its been discussed in another thread but I couldn't find it...

Will a GM's Grand Strategy work on an allied unit? I read the rules/wording on Grand Strategy as well as the rules/wording on Allies of Convenience. I didn't see anything that would prevent the Grand Strategy from applying to allied units.

From Allies of convenience:
-can't benefit from the Warlord Trait of an allied character
-cannot be joined by allied Independent Characters
-Are not counted as friendly units for the targeting of psychic powers

Grand Strategey:
all the different options all say "nominated units or chosen units"

Thoughts?

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Re: Grand Strategy and allies

Post by Bewareoftom on Sun Jul 08, 2012 8:37 pm

well after reading it myself, I think so

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Re: Grand Strategy and allies

Post by drakeharlem on Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:43 pm

Seems like it does to me.

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Re: Grand Strategy and allies

Post by Bewareoftom on Sun Jul 08, 2012 10:46 pm

damn, take tau for scoring broadsides lol!

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Re: Grand Strategy and allies

Post by DOMIN4TRIX on Mon Jul 09, 2012 5:27 am

I doubt it will be allowed when FAQ'd it seems against the spirit of the allies of convenience rules. Are we even allowed to use it on henchmen and they are from the same codex?

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Re: Grand Strategy and allies

Post by bigbri on Mon Jul 09, 2012 5:46 am

DOMIN4TRIX wrote:I doubt it will be allowed when FAQ'd it seems against the spirit of the allies of convenience rules. Are we even allowed to use it on henchmen and they are from the same codex?
No we can't use it on henchmen, because the codex says so. However it doesn't say you can't use it on allies. While I agree this is one thing I'd have expected to be FAQ'ed given how almost every other codex has had their abilities restricted to their own units, the fact is it wasn't changed in the FAQ, which means until they say otherwise it's legit. My suggestion is make the most out of it til GW get around to fixing it which I expect they eventually will.

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Re: Grand Strategy and allies

Post by Sai on Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:12 am

It's against the spirit of the rule but there's nothing to stop you. Apart from your conscience.

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Re: Grand Strategy and allies

Post by bigbri on Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:42 am

Sai wrote:It's against the spirit of the rule but there's nothing to stop you. Apart from your conscience.
Ah a conscience, I remember when I had one of those..... they were terrible times Laughing

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Re: Grand Strategy and allies

Post by Bewareoftom on Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:47 am

well, I can see it working in the fluff (within imperium armies anyways)

like a Grand Master forcing a squad of devastators to hold a certain area?

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Re: Grand Strategy and allies

Post by duncndisorderly on Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:18 am

Actually since we don't have any brothers in arms I think this is fair game for using untill GW fix it. Maybe they wont fix it at all, like I said no brothers in arms( black Templars or SoB at least) so maybe they see it's as a reasonable pay off. That's how I see it and my conscience remains clear Very Happy

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Re: Grand Strategy and allies

Post by Dark Bjoern on Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:46 am

I don't think we will ever have Brother in Arms cause of our treatment of them after the battle (see The Emperor's Gift).

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Re: Grand Strategy and allies

Post by duncndisorderly on Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:18 am

A harmless bit of mind wiping and the occasional planetary extermination order and suddenly your the fat kid when it's time to pick teams for sports

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Re: Grand Strategy and allies

Post by Aubec le noir on Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:35 am

i don't see it fitting well with the way i see GKs ... Grand stragegy is ... well ... Grand ... so i don't think those well ground technics work for menials as convenience allies Wink
consequently i won't use Grand Strategy for allies ... in fact i'm not sure that i'll use allies at all !! Razz Razz
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Re: Grand Strategy and allies

Post by Eldar88 on Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:10 pm

I don't think GS would apply to allies, as i've heard Mystics, icons etc only apply to models from that codex, although I could be wrong

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Re: Grand Strategy and allies

Post by bigbri on Wed Sep 05, 2012 3:00 pm

Eldar88 wrote:I don't think GS would apply to allies, as i've heard Mystics, icons etc only apply to models from that codex, although I could be wrong
The things is a lot of those things were covered in FAQs which specifically said they only affect models from their own codex, Grand Strategy was not covered in ours AFAIK.

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