GK/BA 1850 points
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GK/BA 1850 points
Hey Brothers!
Back with another list for you to help me with. This time I have brought a list with my second favorite army, the BA. Any comments or suggestions are always welcome.
NEMESIS STRIKE FORCE
HQ
Castellan Crowe, Kickass encarnate
ELITES
Purifier Squad (10), 4 psycannons, 5 Halberds, Daemonhammer
Purifier Squad (10), 4 psycannons, 5 Halberds, Daemonhammer
TROOPS
Strike Squad (10), 2 Incinerator
HEAVY
Nemesis Dreadknight, Heavy Incinerator, Havy Psycannon, Great Sword, Personal Teleporter
Nemesis Dreadknight, Heavy Incinerator, Havy Psycannon, Great Sword, Personal Teleporter
FLESH TEARERS STRIKE FORCE
HQ
Mephiston, Lord of Kickass
TROOPS
Scout squad (5), Bolters
FAST ATTACK
Drop Pod
Drop Pod
Drop Pod
I made this list because my purifiers were collecting dust in my shelf and wanted to give them a try, and boy they're better than before. Cleansing flame is awesome against infantry and you can get a lot of them in one turn. Drop pods help me deliver the purifiers and combat buddies Crowe and Meph to the fray. NSF helps me support the drop assault with both NDKs and the Strike Squad. Typical first turn is 2 drop pods, and 2 NDK on board and in my opponent's face. I've played 3 games and I got all my GK reserves turn one. Crowe has gotten much better. The inclusion of Smash and Indep Character are great. Now all wouds by Crowe are AP2, yey!
Cleansing flame does a great job when activated so close to the enemy lines. At S5 it easily kills light infantry, and 3+ infantry also goes down with the sheer ammount of wounds this can generate (7 in average times 4 potentially activated flames). Add to that the possibility of combat squadding both purifier units and you've got a lot of wounds turn one. If you get lucky you can glance light vehicles too. With the ammount of dice available for psychic powers, this is easily done. The dice gods can be tricky sometimes though. If it's sheer power I need, then Meph and Crowe can come turn one via Drop Pod. Some biomancy for Meph and Catellan takes care of the Flame. It's a bit risky but generally both are be fine for a second turn carnag... I mean assault.
Comments? Suggestions?
Back with another list for you to help me with. This time I have brought a list with my second favorite army, the BA. Any comments or suggestions are always welcome.
NEMESIS STRIKE FORCE
HQ
Castellan Crowe, Kickass encarnate
ELITES
Purifier Squad (10), 4 psycannons, 5 Halberds, Daemonhammer
Purifier Squad (10), 4 psycannons, 5 Halberds, Daemonhammer
TROOPS
Strike Squad (10), 2 Incinerator
HEAVY
Nemesis Dreadknight, Heavy Incinerator, Havy Psycannon, Great Sword, Personal Teleporter
Nemesis Dreadknight, Heavy Incinerator, Havy Psycannon, Great Sword, Personal Teleporter
FLESH TEARERS STRIKE FORCE
HQ
Mephiston, Lord of Kickass
TROOPS
Scout squad (5), Bolters
FAST ATTACK
Drop Pod
Drop Pod
Drop Pod
I made this list because my purifiers were collecting dust in my shelf and wanted to give them a try, and boy they're better than before. Cleansing flame is awesome against infantry and you can get a lot of them in one turn. Drop pods help me deliver the purifiers and combat buddies Crowe and Meph to the fray. NSF helps me support the drop assault with both NDKs and the Strike Squad. Typical first turn is 2 drop pods, and 2 NDK on board and in my opponent's face. I've played 3 games and I got all my GK reserves turn one. Crowe has gotten much better. The inclusion of Smash and Indep Character are great. Now all wouds by Crowe are AP2, yey!
Cleansing flame does a great job when activated so close to the enemy lines. At S5 it easily kills light infantry, and 3+ infantry also goes down with the sheer ammount of wounds this can generate (7 in average times 4 potentially activated flames). Add to that the possibility of combat squadding both purifier units and you've got a lot of wounds turn one. If you get lucky you can glance light vehicles too. With the ammount of dice available for psychic powers, this is easily done. The dice gods can be tricky sometimes though. If it's sheer power I need, then Meph and Crowe can come turn one via Drop Pod. Some biomancy for Meph and Catellan takes care of the Flame. It's a bit risky but generally both are be fine for a second turn carnag... I mean assault.
Comments? Suggestions?
DonFer- Terminator
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Re: GK/BA 1850 points
the list does have some great alpha strike potential. I my self and discovering the joy of such attacks be it Drop Pods or Scouting Rhinos (my personal favorite.) Although I do see a general lack of Anti-Air. But that shouldn't be a problem if you don't see it all that much.
You could also give the scouts sniper rifles.
You could also give the scouts sniper rifles.
Rion- Justicar
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Re: GK/BA 1850 points
Thanks for the comments Brother. I've tried Sniper on the Scouts and frankly they don't add nothing special to the list. They either move or shoot but not both, and most often than not, you'll need the scoutsto relocate quickly from an objective to the next.
It's true that the list doesn't have flier support. But I think the alfa strike hits hard enough that flyers are not that big of an issue ion turn 2 and 3 where most of the carnage takes place. I'm working on trying to insert a couple of stormtalons, but tht'll also means I'll have to rethink the entire list.
It's true that the list doesn't have flier support. But I think the alfa strike hits hard enough that flyers are not that big of an issue ion turn 2 and 3 where most of the carnage takes place. I'm working on trying to insert a couple of stormtalons, but tht'll also means I'll have to rethink the entire list.
DonFer- Terminator
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Re: GK/BA 1850 points
One possibility that comes to mind is do what we used to do before the codex update and we are somewhat forced to do now. You have enough Psycannons that you could land a good hit or two on a flier through sheer volume of fire. Especially with the Dreadknights. But that depends on if you think that is acceptable.
I have shot down a Storm Talon using this method but my opponent only had 2 of them and I was running a Draigowing so I had Psycannons EVERYWHERE.
I have shot down a Storm Talon using this method but my opponent only had 2 of them and I was running a Draigowing so I had Psycannons EVERYWHERE.
Rion- Justicar
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Re: GK/BA 1850 points
I think it'll all depend on what army I'm facing. I just played against the new Necrons and boy thos guys are nasty, I mean really nasty. 4+ RP is just plain dirty. If not for well placed Cleansing Flames, I would have undoubtely loose the game. The ability to do multiple wounds with one power saved the day. Necron fliers are still a problem, but by the time the were relevant, i already had wiped out most of the ground forces.
DonFer- Terminator
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