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Post by TheCrimsonGlass Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:43 am

I must admit, those are some pretty awesome models.
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Post by GMKDynamis Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:04 am

Maybe it was a time when there was indifference with midgits, dwarves or should say little people. Way before bridgette the midgit, the designers sexual tensions were uncontrolled and they took it out on the poor squats. Sad
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Post by DonFer Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:38 am

So one question, what was so special about the Squats that they are so missed nowadays? Or was it just the pure awesomeness of the models?
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Post by TheCrimsonGlass Thu Jul 14, 2011 10:19 am

I don't see anything that they added to the lore. Honestly their existence just seemed like an excuse to have a "Dwarves" race in the 40k universe (sorry Aubec).

Sure the same could be said about Eldar and Elves, but that's only if you ignore all the history and character in the Eldar lore. For Squats, they were... short?

The models are pretty sweet though.
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Post by Aubec le noir Thu Jul 14, 2011 10:56 am

the same could be said to any xenos in 40K universe ... the only thing is that GW didn't exploit the potential of the squats as they did for the eldars.... why is a good question !
i really don't know, but to be true i don't know well the fluff of the squats ... i'll find out and go back to you, but what is sure is that the squats had the same place as eldars in 40K in the "epic" era ... they had particular weapons, way of making war and was sometimes an ally of the imperium...
i found 40k somewhat wobbly without dwarfs/squats and creating new xenos species don't fill the gap, imho
and yes, now (it wasn't always the case), i love the models.
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Post by TheCrimsonGlass Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:45 am

I believe the squats were humans who got separated from the main human colonies. After MANY MANY MANY generations, they eventually became squats. There was a lot of potential for them, but GW didn't flesh out their character in the same way they did the rest of the Xenos. I would have preferred that they had fleshed it more (just to have another race, if nothing else), but since they didn't I'm glad they aren't around. It really needs to be a well fleshed-out race with rich history, backstory, heroes, etc. or not a race at all.

Don't get me wrong though, it definitely would have been better if GW had just bothered to flesh them out more. I like the idea of them.
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Post by GMKDynamis Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:17 pm

Agreed brother, this is purely speculation, but imo, They were the guinnea pigs of the emperor. His first botched batch. In scetches and design they seemed well thought out of but the small details and short instructions...no pun intended(allright but just partially). Steam hissed as the towering gene pod slowly opened and within it something stirred. Welcomed but with apprehensive curosity. The emperor of man looked up expectantly as thunderous loud foot stomps echoed in the voluminous container. Steam once more fogged and slowly dissipated into the cold pristine laboratory. The emperors brow raised in pride and a faint smile began to form... something tugged at his cape as shock,disgust and horror transformed his countenance. It spoke , " Me Squat, Boss" as it waved a friendly gesture. The Emperor raised his hand to wipe his temple and replied, "By the throne! why do we still use the english system, not 3 ft... I meant 3 meters, back to the drawing board." geek
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Post by Constantine Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:30 pm

That squat tech priest is AWESOME!!!!
I wonder if they will ever come back scratch
I think that if they do it will be through FW Twisted Evil
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Post by TheCrimsonGlass Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:34 pm

I honestly think that they should be integrated to be an option for IG. Maybe a FA or HS squad. I think that would be a great way of keeping the Squats in the universe without having to flesh out a whole new race. You could even say that the Squats fighting with the IG are stragglers who were out of the system when the 'Nids attacked. It would be so easy and fluffy to make them IG options.
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Post by Aubec le noir Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:38 pm

yes the techpriest and the powerarmour dwarfs are my favorites too !!
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Post by TheCrimsonGlass Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:52 pm

That techpriest is pretty awesome, as is the PA Squat, but I like the techpriest better. Aubec, do you have any of these Squats?
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Post by Aubec le noir Thu Jul 14, 2011 4:52 pm

to be true i have only 1 squat somewhere... i focused on dwarfs during many years, thinking that 40k wasn't worth my attention or my collection... today i may change my mind ! Razz Razz
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Post by TheCrimsonGlass Thu Jul 14, 2011 5:00 pm

Hah. From what I've seen, Squat units will be a pretty penny nowadays.
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Post by Zealadin Thu Jul 14, 2011 6:46 pm

Squats would be a great addition to 40k IMO, they could replace one of the many useless space marine chapter codexes, since they are in PA, and something different (obviously not just given a SM codex, but replacing one). Variety is good!

I know alot of people who would love to play space dwarves. Afterall Dwarves generally have pretty cool lore and fluff.
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Post by Akoni Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:00 pm

My local game store said that when anyone brings up the topic of Games Workshop reintroducing Space Dwarves back into 40K they get shelved for another 15 years... Evil or Very Mad
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Post by GMKDynamis Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:47 pm

I'd consider taking them if they have the same stats as a SM but 1/3 the points and 20in a squad and can fit in a rhino, 40 fit in a LR. cheers
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Post by Aubec le noir Fri Jul 15, 2011 4:13 am

they would have their own transports and vehicles ! Wink
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Post by Constantine Fri Jul 15, 2011 8:09 am

I still think that they could make a come back.
The whole premise behind them was that they are humans that settled a world with stronger gravity and that over the generations they became shorter and shorter. Can't remember where I read that, but I did! I think it was Rouge Trader era scratch

As for stats etc....
I think given that they used to be human, and their evolutionary history... their strength would be higher, Initiative lower......And they would have cool mining kinda war gear like NDK like suits, and mole transports.....Why not keep with the Dwarf miner theme eh! Razz
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Post by GMKDynamis Fri Jul 15, 2011 8:53 am

The seven dwarves would sue for copycat infringments? jocolor
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Post by TheCrimsonGlass Fri Jul 15, 2011 5:06 pm

I think that is a fantastic way to integrate them back into the 40k system Constantine. Maybe even have a cool "teleporting" unit that can dig across the battlefield.
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Post by Aubec le noir Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:04 am

they had a mole cannon that could pass the shields and protections ! Twisted Evil
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Post by TheCrimsonGlass Sat Jul 16, 2011 11:46 am

Most of those models look pretty dang awesome. I think the Squats in power armor are pretty funny actually.

Also, Chaos Squats?! That's just hilarious.
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Post by GMKDynamis Sat Jul 16, 2011 3:01 pm

Really cool series, Gimli son of Gloin's great great great X 10^100 grand sons. Chaos squats were from the mother's side (bearded s well). Razz
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Post by Aubec le noir Mon Jul 18, 2011 3:59 am

i finish my travel to the past with some orks :
gretchins (including assistants that are hilarious imho)
http://solegends.com/citcat94/cat1994142-03.jpg
stormboyz (looking a little nazi if you ask me...) and superb blood axe Kommandos
http://solegends.com/citcat94/cat1994144-03.jpg
smasha gun (??)
http://solegends.com/citcat94/cat1994145-03.jpg
splatta Cannon (??)
http://solegends.com/citcat94/cat1994147-03.jpg
ork dread
http://solegends.com/citcat94/cat1994149-03.jpg
snakebite boyz on boars
http://solegends.com/citcat94/cat1994150-03.jpg

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