(RULE) question on the cc attacks of a dread without a fist

ok : i know that a dread without a fist (like a psyfledread) has S6, but are his cc attacks still considered MC attacks or not anymore ?
another way to ask it : does his S6 attacks in CC ignore armour saves ?
I couldn't find anything on that matter
Aubec

his attacks are only S6 with no AP value. only the fist doubles its strength (10) and grants AP 2.

Whenever I fight against Marines, I'm more than happy to throw a squad into combat with a shooty Dread.

With only two S6 AP- attacks, they're quite bad in combat.

Ok thanks guys !
Aubec

Souba wrote:his attacks are only S6 with no AP value.

This is how I've played it as well

So i'm wondering using a more polyvalent dread with one fist and one psyfledread
Aubec

Aubec le noir wrote:So i'm wondering using a more polyvalent dread with one fist and one psyfledread
Aubec

Dreads imo, suck in combat, power fists and the like will easily strip the HPs off.

While still keep pts efficient and being effective, yet different, how about Assault Cannon and Autocannon PsyDreads? Yes you lose the range and 1 Str AND TL but you gain 2 more shots? Worth a shout if you're wanting to try something different on a Dread.

Has anyone had a great amount of success utilising any load out other than the standard 2 x twin linked auto cannon with psybolt? If so what have you found is effective against what?

SB

I've had moderate success with:

Assault Cannon
DCCW+Storm Bolter
Psybolt Ammo

It's pretty fun walking up the board with a vehicle that's essentially equipped with a Psycannon and S10 in CC.

I'm not so sure of the CC inefficiency of dreads... Not every opponent can access to fists or hammers and a dread can target them too ...
And i don't see the Interest of the combo asscan + autocan ...
Aubec

Aubec le noir wrote:I'm not so sure of the CC inefficiency of dreads... Not every opponent can access to fists or hammers and a dread can target them too ...
And i don't see the Interest of the combo asscan + autocan ...
Aubec

There can be no doubting that the twin autocannon and psybolt loadout is the best.

I've used the Assault Cannon and Autocannon loadout in 5th edition, on a Ven Dread which marched into the midfield with the Paladins. Spraying out 6 shots over 4 has it's uses.

Could have a twin heavy flamer Dreadnought in a Storm Raven, for 2 Heavy Flamers and Psyflame for 130pts Not bad at killing hordes/dug in troops like Pathfinders/scouts.

I've never tried the flamer dreadnought in a stormraven, but could be fun ill give that a try I think. Anyone take TLLC?

SB