Dragiowing overhaul

Last weekends Apocalypse game I had Draigo + 5 Paladins and two other 5-man Paladin Squads, each with a IMO (TDA, Psycannon, Divination), center field. By third turn , I had lost only 4 Paladins overall taking on 7 different squads of Tyranids, Dark Eldar, and Daemons.   

So brothers would a sixman paladin squad with no brotherhood banner(I thought bringing a banner was impractical anyway) and apothecary lead by Dragio in a lander raider crusader be a good idea?

It would be a very durable, lethal assault team. I've actually yet to play with an apothecary, but Feel No Pain roll adds a bit more survivalbility that will annoy your opponent.   

Then I'll try this and best of all I don't have to arrive in reserve like I would in the overrated stormraven.

I'd leave the Banner at home and add an Iq, TDA and Psycannon. Much better bang for your points.

Land raiders are always a good idea IMHO. Taking an =][= instead of the banner comes down to play style and preference. Pure GK is always fun even if it isn't always the most competitive.

Constantine wrote:Land raiders are always a good idea IMHO. Taking an =][= instead of the banner comes down to play style and preference. Pure GK is always fun even if it isn't always the most competitive.

I agree it is fun I will miss firing those four psycannons.

Reckling wrote:Not sure what you guys usually play against, but when i lose a pally its usualy due to something thats AP1 or 2, which usually is strength 8 or more, meaning my two wounds just became 0 and the apothecary i paid 75pts+ranged weapon for is redundant, anyone else have that problem?

The type of weaponry you face is the same we all face. The strength would one-shot a majority of models, so I'm not sure I follow your logic. Paladins have ++5 save, fail it, you receive an Instant Death. But at the very least, the Terminator suit is designed to afford you a chance to save against such an attack. The same firepower would wipe out an entire PAGK unit. So why bother with purchasing them since you may lose them just the same if you fail a cover save, worse if you had no save at all.

I would compare the cost, firepower, and resiliency on a 5-man Paladin squad versus a 10-man  terminator squad.

Paladins (315-points) vs Terminators (450-points)

DonFer wrote:Brother Shark is correct, they offer so much more than the Termies, namely each paladin equals two termies at an added cost of only 15 pts more.

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I've played against Astra Militarum, Iron Hands, Eldar, Dark Eldar, Tau, and Daemons. With a 1750-point Pure Grey Knights list that host only 19-23 models, all odds are against me, and yet, out of 8 games, I've only lost my entire Paladin squad twice. I will make the case that Paladins are resilient and worth fielding. Every opponent I've finished a game with, whether it resulted in a win, lose, or draw, respects what Paladins bring to the table.

Well said brother. Respect the Paladin!

Sorry Ninteen73, as you mentioned my post went to the warp   . My initial query is 'what do paladins bring that terminators dont?'. As we said high str low ap weaponry is the biggest threat to paladins, and terminators have the same survivability against it at 15pt less. What makes paladins worth an additional 15pts?

Also you can use Solodin to act as replacement for casualties.

It'd work. But be weary. An Apothecary is 130 points (55+75). Points that could be else where in your force. But it's up to you.

My motto is usually. "More Grey Knights."

I wouldn't make on an Apothecary to expensive and not offensive enough