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Post by BrotherDvorn on Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:13 am

I have a problem I collect a chaos army I have about 2000pts affraid (emperor save my soul Twisted Evil ) but
I really like pure gk armies but am not sure what would be the best army I could have so with the help of you guys I would like to make a good army list. Thx!

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Post by Praexes on Wed Aug 05, 2009 8:27 am

This may be the wrong place to suggest it, but don't go for a pure Grey Knight army. Codex Daemonhunters has some of the most flavourful and characterful choices out there, and limiting yourself to JUST GK will get boring and frustrating (not to mention expensive) very, very fast.

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Re: Need help deciding on a 500pt pure GK army I'm new to DH

Post by BrotherDvorn on Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:06 am

Thanks what would you suggest i try for a 500pt army then just IST or a mix of both IST and PAGK Question

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Re: Need help deciding on a 500pt pure GK army I'm new to DH

Post by Praexes on Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:47 am

STORMTROOPERS! Wink

Brother-Captain 61pts
Shooty basic inquisitor with psycannon, 50pts
Eversor assassin. 95pts
2x6 Stormies, maybe plasma gun thrown into each squad 140pts
4 Grey Knights and a Justicar 150pts

Exchange out whatever you want if there's a unit you can't live without. I'm going on memory here (no codex handy; I'm on vacation) so don't take my word for it 100%.

I don't know what the rest of the forumnites will think about this. When I played this points level, I went for more bodies on the ground and exchanged the grey knights for another squad of stormies and a chimera. At 500 points, a chimera can be tough to deal with, but I assumed you *reaallly* wanted GK, so I left it out.

ALSO: Take an Eversor. No, really. You'll thank me later. Funnest (and funniest) unit in the codex.


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Re: Need help deciding on a 500pt pure GK army I'm new to DH

Post by BrotherDvorn on Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:34 pm

Thank you brother the help is greatly appreciated cheers

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Post by Klomster on Wed Aug 05, 2009 5:47 pm

I concur on the eversor.

He is violence made flesh. (even in death, violence is his nature.)

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Re: Need help deciding on a 500pt pure GK army I'm new to DH

Post by NemesisForce on Wed Aug 05, 2009 8:01 pm

Though I'm a purist, an all-GK army is difficult to to make at 500 points. The best you could do is a B-C (psycannon?) with a couple of 7-man GK squads. Although not much it makes a good base to build a pure GK army on.

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Re: Need help deciding on a 500pt pure GK army I'm new to DH

Post by Zealadin on Thu Aug 06, 2009 3:01 am

NemesisForce wrote:Though I'm a purist, an all-GK army is difficult to to make at 500 points. The best you could do is a B-C (psycannon?) with a couple of 7-man GK squads. Although not much it makes a good base to build a pure GK army on.

GK are a difficult army at 500 points.
Due to the relative expense of units, and particularly Justicars, it makes it really really hard to make a pure GK army at this size.
However if you want to go pure GK do it. Aiming for 750 points might be a bit funner, but starting at 500 is fine.
Grab a BC, two squads of PAGK, and get some extra models with psycannons/incinerators so you have some choices. Its the perfect basis of the PURE GK army.
I play pure GK and started at 750 points, and its insane fun, you have plenty of choices, although your army will be small, from Land Raiders, Dreadnoughts, through to Brother Captains, Grand Masters and Grey Knight Terminators (awesome models) and PAGK squads, which painted well are amazing and rarely seen in most clubs.

Seriously if you want a purist list, don't sell yourself short and settle for something else, its not worth it.

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Re: Need help deciding on a 500pt pure GK army I'm new to DH

Post by BrotherDvorn on Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:21 am

tank you brothers the help is appreciated

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Post by VindicareAssassin on Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:21 pm

I would say 2 squads of stormies flamer and melta/ plasma, an inquisitor with artificer armour, 2 guardsmen warriors with melta and plasma, an acolyte with artificer armour and 2 sages, a dread with weaponry decided by the opponent's list some. pagk or a bc. 500 pt games are hard with gk

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Re: Need help deciding on a 500pt pure GK army I'm new to DH

Post by Ceasarian on Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:42 pm

Grey Knight armies have a steep learning curve- and at low points cost, especially against crafty opponents, it'll be a VERY steep learning curve. I concure with Paexes and his amazing picture there- when your first looking at the codex, don't limit yourself down to only using a pure Grey Knight army, there is a good amount of variation you can draw out of just the DH book. One thing that you may want to do, concerning how expensive/ difficult it is to get GK's these days (none of my stores really carry them anymore lol- aw...) is to play test different armies against a friend- at let's say the starting point of 500pts. Figure out with lists work well- what units sucked/ did amazing, how can you improve on certain things. Eventually you'll have a strong base, and you'll have an idea with what you want have in a 1000pt army (for building an army I suggest 250-500pt chuncks both in buying and in painting.

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Re: Need help deciding on a 500pt pure GK army I'm new to DH

Post by Brother Ezekiel on Fri Aug 07, 2009 6:24 am

Ceasarian wrote:One thing that you may want to do, concerning how expensive/ difficult it is to get GK's these days (none of my stores really carry them anymore lol- aw...)

What?!How is that possible?!!!I mean I have never heard of a store being out of wh40K models!I mean from my store I can get every single choice from the Dark Eldar miniature range and can get 10 PAGK with 30e.
Man it must suck to be you.

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Post by Nausaden on Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:18 am

*Laughs* My store doesn't even carry Dark Eldar Codexs anymore, much less their models. You have to actually order them.

Grey Knights are becoming rarer too; I spied one last box of GKT and GKPA. I am going to get them tomorrow, pray they are still there.

Thats ridiculous; it costs 35$ for me to get 5 Grey Knights. Freaking metal models....

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Re: Need help deciding on a 500pt pure GK army I'm new to DH

Post by BrotherDvorn on Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:32 am

Thank you brothers the help is greatly appreciated Exclamation
I'm going to london next week saturday so I'll start there and once again thank you. Very Happy

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Post by Zealadin on Fri Aug 07, 2009 10:21 pm

$35 is a bargain, they are $55 here although I always order any boxes online due to getting about a 30% saving even including shipping. (more for plastics)
As much as I hate not buying from the local shop, the price is rediculous, and if GWS won't be competitive with their own products shipped internationally I simply won't buy from them, I'd rather pay the same price online from someone who is making the effort.
Particularly since they are cracking down on shops selling at a discount online. I'd rather support anyone else than the company who rips me off in my own country.

I'd still recommend (if thats what your interested in) going Purist GK, a good start if you have the money is:
2x Boxes of PAGK (each box includes 1 justicar, one incinerator PAGK, and 3 NFW/SB PAGK)
4x Blisters of PAGK with NFW's (thats 8 NFW/SB PAGK)
1x Grey Knight Terminator (a Brother Captain or Stern model might be worth it)

That gives you 2 * 9 man PAGK squads with incinerators, and a HQ, it will be slightly more than 500 points, but gives you some flexibility of whether to take incinerators or not.

British prices are considerably lower than ours here, after the exchange rate conversion you pay half what we pay in store, so it might not be worth you buying online, but I got 3 boxes of PAGK a box of GKT and a Stern model for about a 35% saving including shipping when I started collecting

Also if your going purist GK you might want to consider a LR as your next purchase, for 750 points a BC (with incinerator for this list is good), a LR and two PAGK squads (one more CC orientated) is a good tactical list that is slightly more forgiving to play, and quite competitive, jst remember to let your opponents know you will have a LR so they can ensure they have weapons capable of taking it out (people can get angry otherwise)

This is basically the list I use for 750 points and its fun, competitive, and looks amazing on the table!

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Re: Need help deciding on a 500pt pure GK army I'm new to DH

Post by BrotherDvorn on Sat Aug 08, 2009 3:29 am

Thank you brother. Very Happy

But how much does this cost Question

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Post by Nausaden on Sat Aug 08, 2009 11:28 am

Very nicely said Zealadin; two full troops is always a good idea. Try to keep them on the same page; a squad of PAGK's with 2 incinerators and a squad with 2 Pyscannons will ensure you get a bit of versatility in dealing with whatever the opposition can dish out. Of course, since the Pycannon Grey Knights come in blisters of 15$ or over at retail price, its rather annoying.

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Post by VindicareAssassin on Sat Aug 08, 2009 7:49 pm

EEEEEEEEEEEBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAYYYYYYY and in pts its like 200 to 220

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Re: Need help deciding on a 500pt pure GK army I'm new to DH

Post by BrotherDvorn on Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:57 am

sorry brothers my dad has just lost his job Sad so im going to have to lay off War40k for a while thanks for all the help and support. So ...... well ill see you sometime later thx. Sad

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Post by Zealadin on Mon Aug 10, 2009 4:29 am

Thats sad to hear Sad
Hope you or they have some luck in the near future so you can continue collecting!

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Post by Rivan on Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:24 pm

Hang in there Brother and keep your chin up. I'm sure we'll see you soon.

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