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Post by Rion on Fri Mar 07, 2014 1:24 am

Planning on starting up a Dark Heresy Campaign after the second edition is released. But I'm stuck on something. I want to have the party based on a ship so they can travel to different worlds and on occasion partake is grand space battles (briefly taking on the roll of the Captain and Ship's crew: or as themselves to repel borders). But my question here is which ship?

http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Sword-class_Frigate
http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Dauntless-class_Light_Cruiser

These are the two I've narrowed it down to. Chosen based on these criteria: Commonality, the party is going to be working for Bradley who favors stealth and anonymity over ceremony and notoriety. Versatility: pretty much must do just about anything from scout duty to combat, as well as act as a mobile base/home for the party. Speed: The parties only human they don't have centuries to get somewhere (time dilation from Warp travel not with standing.)

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Re: A ship my kingdom for a ship.

Post by Constantine on Fri Mar 07, 2014 11:47 pm

I say go for the Dauntless class. After reading through the links you provided it sounds like the Dauntless is a better choice for what you want to use it for.

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Re: A ship my kingdom for a ship.

Post by Klomster on Sun Mar 09, 2014 4:23 pm

Why not a scout sloop?

It is a heavily ignored ship class in 40k, but it is excellent for small undercover groups.

A scout sloop has almost fully given up fighting capability in favor of stealth and detection apparatus.
And in stealth apparatus, we mean SPEED!

These small buggers are fast and with a decent astropath can outrun anything anywhere.
Downside is the ship is not going to be fighting anything bigger than a few starhawk bombers (i think the starhawks were the bombers) or fury interceptors.
Normal cargo vessels are no problem for a scout sloop but heavy cargo vessels or upgunned ones are not going to be taken down without extraordinary tactics or happenings in the sloops favor.

Although i saw you wanted it to fight....
When we played rouge trader the group really liked the little ship i cobbled together for them.
A sword class frigate, with crappy guns, a massive titanforge lance and a skittish demeanor. It had lots of fun things that made it memorable and were generally perfect for the job.

I'd say go for a sword class, or more specifically a firestorm frigate.

If you want more specifiks i can get them on the ship i made, i even got the stats left Very Happy

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Re: A ship my kingdom for a ship.

Post by Aubec le noir on Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:12 am

For à ship based campaign go to Rogue Trader RPG you have lots of ship descriptions and gear to upgrade them !!
I like the dauntless class too !
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Re: A ship my kingdom for a ship.

Post by Rion on Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:44 am

Agreed a Dauntless-Class while not as maneuverable or as fast as a Frigate is much more versatile and has more space for customization. I was able to fit the stealth system on there. I've been building the thing using proper rules from Rogue Trader. Still one bad -bleep- ship  Twisted Evil Very well suited for the party thanks for the input guys!

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Re: A ship my kingdom for a ship.

Post by Rion on Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:38 pm

So after implementing my own personal restrictions of ONLY 3 Archeotech Components, and a slight GM mod to fix the Dauntless-Class lack of forward firepower I give you the Alexandria as the party will play her.

Alexandria
Hull: Modified Dauntless-Class Light Cruiser
Dimensions: 4.5 km long, 0.5 km abeam at fins approx.
Mass: 20 megatonnes approx.
Crew: 65000 crew, approx.
Accel: 4.3 gravities max sustainable acceleration

Discovered over 4 standard T-Centuries ago amongst the drifting bulk of a long forgotten Space Hulk by Inquisitor Coulson the Alexandria has served four generations of Inquisitors. Each having upgraded and modified the ship making her a truly formidable vessel. Bradley is the latest to call this ancient vessel home. And it has served as his mobile base of operations never once failing him.

Speed:8   Manoeuvrability:+19
Detection:+20   Armour:+28
Void Shields: 1   Hull Integrity:63
Space:60 (Used: 58)  Power:75 (Used: 74)
Turret Rating:3
Weapon Capacity: Starboard 1, Port 1, Prow 1

Essential Components
Veteran Crew (50),  Voidsmen Quarters, Void Shields, Bridge of Antiquity, Pattern Life Sustainer, Modified Jovian "Warcruiser" Drive, Geller Fields, W-240 Pass Detection Arrays

Turreted Broadside: The Alexandria has a strange but powerful feature. The foremost guns of her Port and Starboard Broadsides can actually fire towards the Prow adding to her forward firepower.
>The Port and Starboard Broadsides can fire into the Prow firing Arc but at -3 Strength

Supplemental Components
Prow: Sunhammer Lance Battery, Port: Sunsear Las-broadside, Starboard: Sunsear Las-broadside, Auxiliary Plasma Banks, Fire Suppression System, Extended Supply Vault, Labatorium, Reinforced Interior Bulkheads,  Micro Laser Defense Grid, Medicade Deck, Libarium Vault, Empyrean Mantel, Augmented Retro Thrusters.

Complications
Resolute, Wrested from a Space Hulk

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Re: A ship my kingdom for a ship.

Post by Klomster on Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:10 am

Sounds cool. Only 3 archeotech components...... yeah......

Good luck with the games Very Happy
I want to hear some of the juicy stuff >Very Happy

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Re: A ship my kingdom for a ship.

Post by Aubec le noir on Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:37 am

she looks Great !!  cheers 
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Re: A ship my kingdom for a ship.

Post by Rion on Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:38 pm

@Klomster> used to have all her guns archeotech as well. lol but dont worry if it ever gets started I'll give all the juicy bits.

@Aubec> That she does

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Re: A ship my kingdom for a ship.

Post by Constantine on Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:02 pm

Very nice.

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Re: A ship my kingdom for a ship.

Post by Rion on Sun Mar 23, 2014 12:27 am

My thanks brother Constantine.

So I was looking over some rules. Getting a better feel for the space combat and decided to make some changes. Much better I think. Don't know what I was thinking with a movable broadside.  scratch 

Next may post my idea for the the final boss ship.  Twisted Evil 

Alexandria
Hull: Modified Dauntless-Class Light Cruiser
Dimensions: 4.5 km long, 0.5 km abeam at fins approx.
Mass: 20 megatonnes approx.
Crew: 65000 crew, approx.
Accel: 4.3 gravities max sustainable acceleration

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Speed:8   Manoeuvrability:+28
Detection:+30   Armour:20
Void Shields:1   Hull Integrity:63
Space:60 (Used: 58)  Power:75 (Used: 73)
Turret Rating:2
Weapon Capacity: Dorsal 1, Prow 1, Port 1, Starboard 1

Essential Components
Veteran Crew (50),  Voidsmen Quarters, Castellan Shield, Bridge of Antiquity, Clemency Pattern Life Sustainer, Modified Jovian "Warcruiser" Drive, Geller Fields, Deep Void Auger Array

Extra Turret: When the Alexandria was salvaged it was discovered that she was built with the power complings and mounting for a an extra turret mounted on her dorsal length. Add 1 Dorsal weapon Mounting.

Supplemental Components
Dorsal: Sunsear Laser Battery, Prow: Sunhammer Lance Battery, Port: Sunsear Laser Battery, Starboard: Sunsear Laser Battery, Auxiliary Plasma Banks, Arboretum, Labatorium, Reinforced Interior Bulkheads, Flakk Turrets, Medicade Deck, Libarium Vault, Empyrean Mantel, Augmented Retro Thrusters. Best Craftsmen

Upgrades
Best Craftsmenship Superior Damage Control

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Resolute, Wrested from a Space Hulk

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