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Post by deflef Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:22 pm

hi I just beginning with grey knights and the shop keeper helped making my list(games-workshop)

i just wanted to see how good the list is.
here it is:

HQ : lord kaldor draigo.

TROOPS:
- paladin squad(5);
apothecary
brotherhood banner
3 nemesis force halberd

-Terminator squad(5)
incinerator
2 nemesis force halberd

-Strike squad(10)
2 psycanons
psybolt ammo

-Nemesis Dreadknight
nemesis Greatsword
heavy incinerator

-Stormraven gunship
teleport homer

I'm planning to teleport(deep strike) some squads so i grapped the teleport homer.
I like to play with the space marines because they just look awsome!

thanks for reading.
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Post by Guest Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:34 pm

Don't take apothecary or the banner in a 5 man squad of paladins. Infact dont take the apothecary anymore in general. For terminators, you want the psycannon over the incinerator. Relentless psycannon wins against the incinerator every time. The deep striking units wouldn't be in till turn 3 if u relied on the raven. Drop the raven for more units, perhaps give the NDK a teleport homer, more troops?

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Post by volvoe Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:56 pm

For the paladins you want to have a maximum amount of psycannons. I think for every 5 you could get 2 special weapons? Because of relentless you get 8 shots of str 7 ap 4 rending! But if that's the case you might want to cut points somewhere. I'd cut points probably removing the regular squad of terminators. Then I'd run maybe 2-3 one man squads of paladins for scoring purposes. With the grand master's psychic communion you could get them in when you want them too. Also I think that strike squad deserves a rhino. As for Arratak, I think an Apothecary isn't bad, but I don't find the banner necessary.
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Post by Rivan Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:29 pm

Apothecary becomes really worth it in larger Paladin squads. 6th Ed FNP is actually not bad. True, its only 5+, but it works against ANYTHING except instant death wounds. So it works against power weapons, AP2 weapons etc.

But again, I think it's only worth it in larger paladin squads Smile
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Post by Guest Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:29 pm

Rivan.... It's 75 points..... 75 points?!? Srs biz ness!

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Post by deflef Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:03 am

oke thx for the tips i changed somethings

HQ
lord kaldor draigo

paladin squad(10)
Apothecary
Master Crafted Weapon
1 Brotherhood Banner
2 Nemesis Force Halberd
1 Daemon Hammer
4 Psilencer
1 Psybolt Ammo(whole squad)

Strike squad(10)
2 Psycannon
1 Psybolt Ammo (entire squad)
7 Nemesis Force Halberd
1 Daemon Hammer

heavy support
Nemesis Dreadknight
1 Heavy Incinerator
1 Nemesis Greatsword
1 Heavy Psycannon

hope this is something better
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Post by Guest Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:14 am

Nooooo not psilencers they aren't even worth pissing on. Psybolt ammo is only gonna effect 6 guys, probably not worth taking.

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Post by deflef Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:37 am

sry i selected the wrong cannon
changed it to psy cannons
removed the mastercrafted by the paladins
also now the strike squad has 4 nemesis force halberds

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Post by DOMIN4TRIX Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:04 am

Maybe this is nearer where you should be heading:

Draigo

5 Palladins (2 psycannon, 2 hammer, 3 halberd)

10 Strike squad (2 psycannon, rhino)

Dreadknight (heavy incinerator, personal teleporter)

Stormraven (multi-melta, lascannon)

1390

This leaves you with enough points for either 2 more Palladin's or another Strike squad (5) with a psycannon to deepstrike in.
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Post by deflef Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:23 am

thanks my brothers for the help i look in to it and then i start to collect the models and start painting

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Post by Rivan Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:00 pm

Grandmaster Arratak wrote:Rivan.... It's 75 points..... 75 points?!? Srs biz ness!

True, so that equates to 7.5pts/model upgrade for 10 models. Goes further down to 6.8pts/model if I have an IC attached to the squad (6.25/model w/ 2 IC's). Not a bad upgrade cost per model for 5+ FNP considering they have 2 wounds each.

However, I do agree that there are just too many S8 weapons there that can really screw this unit (krak missiles, battle cannons, etc). That's why I've never run an apothecary Laughing
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Post by bigbri Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:42 pm

To be honest I'm giving some consideration for sticking an apothecary back into my paladin army for a few reasons:
1)The most common str8 weapons I face are only AP3, which means I rely on my armour to survive
2)There's a lot more plasma guns and a lot less meltas with people going for glances
3)If you're using Draigo to tank wounds then he can still take FNP against str 8 + 9 which is pretty sweet.

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