Mapping out the Chapter
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Mapping out the Chapter
Borthers,
I am not sure if anyone has done this before or not? Is there a map (structure) of the chapter out there? I understand it is 8 Brotherhoods...
Any thoughts?
Thanks,
Brother Flaxis
I am not sure if anyone has done this before or not? Is there a map (structure) of the chapter out there? I understand it is 8 Brotherhoods...
Any thoughts?
Thanks,
Brother Flaxis
flaxis- Henchmen
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Re: Mapping out the Chapter
good to propose yourself for the job brother, cause i don't think there's any sructure map out there !!
Aubec
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Re: Mapping out the Chapter
We have only the organisation description from our Codex. GK are not like a codex chapter. Each brotherhood differs from the others depenting on the personal favor of it's Grand Master.flaxis wrote:Borthers,
I am not sure if anyone has done this before or not? Is there a map (structure) of the chapter out there? I understand it is 8 Brotherhoods...
Any thoughts?
Thanks,
Brother Flaxis
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Re: Mapping out the Chapter
Supreme Grand Master
8 Grand Masters
(and from this point on i'm guessing and am therefore basing this upon what I want it to be rather than what it is)
8 Librarians, one at the disposal of each GM
One Paladin Squad under each GM (10 individuals perhaps)
One Purifier Squad under each GM ( 1 x 10 man squads perhaps)
8 Brother Captains under Each GM
each brother Captain is responsible for:
2 x 10 man strike squad
2 x 10 man Terminator squad
1 x 10 man Interceptor Squad
2 x 5 man Purgation Squad
3 Dreadnoughts venerable or otherwise
3 NDK
in addition each company/order should have
5 Rhino
5 Razorback
5 Landraider
5 Stormraven
That means each company has 85 Bodies at its disposal including the GM, that's a chapter total of 681, this does not include the Dreads, NDK's, pilots or techmarines.
I was trying to get 666 in total but am still working on it
8 Grand Masters
(and from this point on i'm guessing and am therefore basing this upon what I want it to be rather than what it is)
8 Librarians, one at the disposal of each GM
One Paladin Squad under each GM (10 individuals perhaps)
One Purifier Squad under each GM ( 1 x 10 man squads perhaps)
8 Brother Captains under Each GM
each brother Captain is responsible for:
2 x 10 man strike squad
2 x 10 man Terminator squad
1 x 10 man Interceptor Squad
2 x 5 man Purgation Squad
3 Dreadnoughts venerable or otherwise
3 NDK
in addition each company/order should have
5 Rhino
5 Razorback
5 Landraider
5 Stormraven
That means each company has 85 Bodies at its disposal including the GM, that's a chapter total of 681, this does not include the Dreads, NDK's, pilots or techmarines.
I was trying to get 666 in total but am still working on it
duncndisorderly- Henchmen
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Re: Mapping out the Chapter
the brotherhoods have some similarities with the great companies of the Space Wolf for that matter
but i think that they are more than 700... they were about 5000 in the old days and i think it's a minimum for the Imperium is really wide ! the codex said about 1000 GKs but then again i think it's too few...
another remark .... Chapter masters have more than 1 Captain and more than 1 Librarian so my guess is that a brotherhood possess more "compagnies" than just one ...
Aubec
but i think that they are more than 700... they were about 5000 in the old days and i think it's a minimum for the Imperium is really wide ! the codex said about 1000 GKs but then again i think it's too few...
another remark .... Chapter masters have more than 1 Captain and more than 1 Librarian so my guess is that a brotherhood possess more "compagnies" than just one ...
Aubec
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Re: Mapping out the Chapter
Ok forget all previous
1 Supreme Grand Master
8 X Librarian
8 x Grand Master
under each grand master :
4 Brother Captains
5 man Purifier Squad
5 Paladins
3 NDK
3 Dread
2 x 10 man strike
2 x 10 man terminator
1 x 10 man Puragation
1 x 10 man Interceptor
so each GM is responsible for 80 bodies
80 x 6 = 640
now the additions
plus 8 Grand Masters
plus 8 Librarians
= 656
8 Techmarines, one per GM
= 664
AHHHHHHHHH i NEED TWO MORE BODIES
1 Supreme Grand Master
8 X Librarian
8 x Grand Master
under each grand master :
4 Brother Captains
5 man Purifier Squad
5 Paladins
3 NDK
3 Dread
2 x 10 man strike
2 x 10 man terminator
1 x 10 man Puragation
1 x 10 man Interceptor
so each GM is responsible for 80 bodies
80 x 6 = 640
now the additions
plus 8 Grand Masters
plus 8 Librarians
= 656
8 Techmarines, one per GM
= 664
AHHHHHHHHH i NEED TWO MORE BODIES
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Re: Mapping out the Chapter
Aubec le noir wrote:the brotherhoods have some similarities with the great companies of the Space Wolf for that matter
but i think that they are more than 700... they were about 5000 in the old days and i think it's a minimum for the Imperium is really wide ! the codex said about 1000 GKs but then again i think it's too few...
another remark .... Chapter masters have more than 1 Captain and more than 1 Librarian so my guess is that a brotherhood possess more "compagnies" than just one ...
Aubec
You have spoiled my maths, curses
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Re: Mapping out the Chapter
great minds brother ....
if you want 666 : give the chapter 2 apothecaries for the paladins !
Aubec
if you want 666 : give the chapter 2 apothecaries for the paladins !
Aubec
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Re: Mapping out the Chapter
I'm planning and building a brotherhood at the mo and I'm pritty sure the codex mentions that each brotherhood has around a 100 men in it and is over seen by a GM so that would be a rough 800 men as it would be a 100 men to each of the 8 grandmasters,but I'm also pritty sure it mentions in the codex there are usally 1000 men in the greyknights army at any one time but this would include tank drivers and pilots etc! So I'm basing my brotherhood around a 100 men including units and vehical e.g tank drives etc! If I'm wrong brothers let me know
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Re: Mapping out the Chapter
Your wrong, it's 666 I did the math THE MATH!!!!!!!
But seriously best of luck Brother
But seriously best of luck Brother
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Re: Mapping out the Chapter
There are 8 brotherhoods plus purifiers and paladins.
The Brother-Captain and his men form the company of around 100 men.
The Grandmaster and his guard are in addition to this.
The Purifiers are completely seperate but there aren't that many of them.
This is all on page 12 of the codex under Chapter Organisation.
In the old days the chapter was a lot bigger.
The Librarium doesn't have a fixed number of members and you have the older members who stay on Titan. After all there are three guarding the Sanctum Sanctorum.(Page 10)
The Brother-Captain and his men form the company of around 100 men.
The Grandmaster and his guard are in addition to this.
The Purifiers are completely seperate but there aren't that many of them.
This is all on page 12 of the codex under Chapter Organisation.
In the old days the chapter was a lot bigger.
The Librarium doesn't have a fixed number of members and you have the older members who stay on Titan. After all there are three guarding the Sanctum Sanctorum.(Page 10)
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Re: Mapping out the Chapter
Thanks for the info I wasn't to far off thanks brother
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Re: Mapping out the Chapter
No more than 40 purifiers at any specific time. Purifiers are all very small brotherhood, at least according to the codex.
DonFer- Terminator
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halas some codex fluff sucks !
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Re: Mapping out the Chapter
Don't forget to add brotherhood champions to the mix.
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Re: Mapping out the Chapter
On page 12, third paragraph in Chapter organisation.
The decision on numbers and squad composition rests with the grand master and brotherhood captain. It is long since proven that a rough balance of squad- between 3 and 7 operational units each of terminator, purgation and strike squads is by far the most effective combination.
The decision on numbers and squad composition rests with the grand master and brotherhood captain. It is long since proven that a rough balance of squad- between 3 and 7 operational units each of terminator, purgation and strike squads is by far the most effective combination.
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Re: Mapping out the Chapter
The easier Brotherhood to organize is the Purifiers then?:
1X Castellan Crowe
40X Purifiers
1X Castellan Crowe
40X Purifiers
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Re: Mapping out the Chapter
It is long since proven that a rough balance of squad- between 3 and 7 operational units each of terminator, purgation and strike squads is by far the most effective combination.
Indeed- the ideal balance is somewhere between 15 and 70 knights of each type. In a company of 100.
'Master Draigo, how should I outfit my squads?'
'I dunno, eh, have a whole bunch of each, eh?'
'Mighty is your wisdom.'
'Fething A.'
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Correction.
"Master Draigo, how should I outfit my squads?"
"Who cares, I am only here until this incursion. Is over!!!"
"My apologies Master Draigo."
"Master Draigo, how should I outfit my squads?"
"Who cares, I am only here until this incursion. Is over!!!"
"My apologies Master Draigo."
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