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First 1500pts draft

Post by Brockman on Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:36 am

i have recently returned to playing warhammer 40k and decided to play GK's. so here is my first list and I\'ve gone for an all out shooting army, with a decoy teminator squad.

HQ

Ordo Malleus Inquisitor = 25
Terminator armour = 40
Psycannon = 15
Psybolt Ammo = 5
Total= 85pts

Troops

GK Strike Squad (5) = 100
Psycannon = 10
Psybolt Ammo = 20
Total= 130pts

Justicar Thawn = 75
GK Terminator Squad = 220
Halberds = Free
Total= 295

Heavy Support

Purgation Squad (5) = 100
Psycannons (4) = 80
Psybolt Ammo = 20
Total = 200

Purgation Squad (5) = 100
Psycannons (4) = 80
Psybolt Ammo = 20
Total = 200

Purgation Squad (5) = 100
Psycannons (4) = 80
Psybolt Ammo = 20
Total = 200

Elites

Venerable Dreadnaught = 175
Twin Linked Autocannon = 10
Twin Linked Autocannon = 5
Psybolt Ammo = 5
Total = 195

Venerable Dreadnaught = 175
Twin Linked Autocannon = 10
Twin Linked Autocannon = 5
Psybolt Ammo = 5
Total = 195

Grand Total = HQ = 85
= Troops = 425
= Heavy = 600
= Elites = 390
= 1500 pts

Psycannons = 14
Twin Linked Autocannons = 4
All with Psybolt Ammo!
Very stationary i know, but it is workable if you know how to play it.

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Re: First 1500pts draft

Post by Valten on Thu Jul 28, 2011 7:06 am

Ok then, first things first. Psybolt Ammo does not work on Psycannons, meaning that you're paying 20 points to give 1 man a S5 Stormbolter in your Purgation Squads.

You'd be better off taking the Psybolts off all of the Purgation Squads and adding 3 more Grey Knights to the Strike Squads.

Secondly - I'm not sure how well you'll do with 5 man Purgation Squads at all. As soon as you start taking casualties you'll start loosing Psycannons - that's 40 points a model gone.

If you take out the Purgation Squads (with Psybolt ammo) you get 600 points which you can turn into 2 Strike Squads with Psybolt Ammo, 2 Psycannons, and a hammer, and add 5 more men to you existing Strike Squad. Never underestimate torrent of fire with S5 Stormbolters.

In doing this you then get 4 troop choices, and still keep 9 Psycannons. However, now you'd be able to combat squad them into 5 man units and split your fire - There is nothing worse than firing at a vehicle with a Purgation Squad (4 Psycannons), and destroying it with the first one - therefore in effect wasting your other 3 Psycannons.

Finally - Terminator Squads are 200 points, and Psycannons are 25 points not 20 - so you either drop 20 points, or find another 5 for the psycannon.

On a plus note - you can't go wrong with those Dreadnoughts!!! cheers

Of course, you don't have to follow my advice - but you've posted on this forum so you're going to get it!! Very Happy

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Re: First 1500pts draft

Post by TheCrimsonGlass on Thu Jul 28, 2011 7:54 am

Every time I see someone taking Thawn I churn inside (of course, I do have a stomach bug that's been going around, so that may have happened anyways Razz ). He's neat, but 75 points of neat. It's a huge points sink that is pretty much always better spent somewhere else. Sure, him coming back to life every now and then is cool, but if he doesn't still have his squad to back him up, then you've got 1 terminator running around or he just becomes an easy target. I mean, for 75 points you can get 3 more models in your strike squad (6 more S5 shots going downrange), among other options.

Lastly, welcome to the forums! cheers

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Re: First 1500pts draft

Post by Rivan on Thu Jul 28, 2011 8:20 am

Welcome to the forums Brother!

Valten and BrentK pretty much summed it up nicely. Like those venerable psyflemen dreads too Smile

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Re: First 1500pts draft

Post by DonFer on Thu Jul 28, 2011 9:25 am

Too many points invested in Psybolt ammo, and too low body count. Loose one Purg. Squad and add troops.

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Re: First 1500pts draft

Post by Brockman on Thu Jul 28, 2011 10:09 am

i appreciate all the advice you have given me and will update the list tonight. thanks again, Brock

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Re: First 1500pts draft

Post by Brockman on Fri Jul 29, 2011 1:50 pm

ok after a review of my army i have come up with the following:

HQ

Ordo Malleus Inquisitor = 25
Terminator armour = 40
Psycannon = 15
total = 80

Troops

GK Strike Squad (10) = 200
Psycannon = 10
Total= 210pts

GK Terminator Squad = 200
Halberds = Free
Total= 200

Heavy

Purgation Squad = 100
Psycannons (4) = 80
total = 180

Dreadnaught = 115
TL AC = 10
TL AC = 5
psybolt ammo = 5
total = 135

Dreadnaught = 115
TL AC = 10
TL AC = 5
psybolt ammo = 5
total = 135

Elites

Purifier squad (10) = 240
Psycannons (4) = 40
total = 280

Purifier squad (10) = 240
Psycannons (4) = 40
total = 280

grand total
80+210+200+180+135+135+280+280 = 1500

advice as always is welcome, thats why im posting here!

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