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Re: My first 1500pt list

Post by ossidium on Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:50 am

BrentK wrote:Brother ossidium, your attitude is phenomenal. Looking forward to the conversion thread!
Thanks Brother!
My first ever 40k unit was a librarian conversion (2 hours on the sword hand to cut it perfectly to keep the tubes...)

now my second will be a GM conversion YAY! Smile

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Re: My first 1500pt list

Post by ossidium on Tue Aug 02, 2011 2:40 pm

My Brothers,

I've decided to use the emperor's champion, and give him the nemesis great sword from my dread knight kit.

Pics as soon as I get the pieces and get started Smile

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Re: My first 1500pt list

Post by DonFer on Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:10 pm

Is that the Citadel FineCast Librarian? Looks very nice, and I don't see any flaws in it. Did you have any problems with the model?

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Re: My first 1500pt list

Post by ossidium on Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:02 am

Hello Brother DonFer!

That is indeed the citadel finecast libby. It was the first 40k unit i ever made, so I cannot compare it to anything else in terms of converting... but it was easy. I mean, if I could do it I am sure anything else who has converted would be even better with it Smile

No problems at all other than not much to customize without cutting/converting Razz

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Re: My first 1500pt list

Post by ossidium on Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:52 pm

Hello Brothers,

How strong is a Dreadnaught with 2x Twin-Linked Autocannons, with Psybolt ammo? (135pts)...

Autocannon: 48" Str 7, AP 4 and Heavy 2.

Twin Linked autocannon with psybolt ammo means:
48" Str 8, AP 4 and Heavy 2 x2 times...

Does this mean one dreadnaught with 2x twin linked would shoot 8 times at STR 8????? WOWOW??? this seems a little ridiculous to me...

Like, should I be adding these in somehow? And can they join squads?

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Re: My first 1500pt list

Post by Rivan on Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:01 pm

A psyfleman dread can fire 4 twin-linked S8 shots.

And no, they can't join squads Smile

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Re: My first 1500pt list

Post by ossidium on Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:15 pm

Thanks Rivan!

how good is 4 twin-linked S8 shots? it sounds a little insane lol
I got confused because it says autocannon has heavy 2... i thought that was 2 heavy shots each

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Re: My first 1500pt list

Post by Rivan on Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:25 pm

2 heavy shots each is correct so 2 autocannons will give you the 4 shots.

4 twin-linked S8 shots means you will almost always cause 4 wounds on infantry. Multi-wound models that have T4 or lower will fear you since 1 missed armor save or cover save means instant death Evil or Very Mad

4 S8 shots are also great against light armor Smile

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Re: My first 1500pt list

Post by ossidium on Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:35 pm

Thanks!
so the twin linked feature does not add any additional shots, just rerolls to wound?

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Re: My first 1500pt list

Post by Rivan on Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:44 pm

Actually, twin-linked allows you re-roll to hit. So w/ a BS4 dreadnought, you need 3's to hit with re-rolls.

If you're shooting at T4 infantry, each hit will wound on a 2+

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Re: My first 1500pt list

Post by ossidium on Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:46 pm

hmm i think im brain farting sorry.
if it is BS4 why does 3+ hit... shouldnt it be 4+ ?

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Re: My first 1500pt list

Post by Rivan on Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:55 pm

The computation for BS is always: subtract the BS from 7 and that's what you need to hit with.

BS4: 7 - 4 = 3 so you need 3's or better to hit. But remember 1 is always a miss. If the BS is higher than 6 (aka vindicare), there's a special second roll for it (you can find it in the rule book, just can't remember the page).

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Re: My first 1500pt list

Post by ossidium on Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:58 pm

so then what did you mean by you always hit infanty on a 2+...

man i thought I understood all this lol... Sad

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Re: My first 1500pt list

Post by Rivan on Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:11 pm

Sorry if it was confusing, I meant you will almost always wound on a 2+

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Re: My first 1500pt list

Post by ossidium on Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:18 pm

still lost how you are saying 2+ instead of 3+ lol

BS4 => 7 - 4 = 3+ ??? i know im missing some minor small stupid detail lol

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Re: My first 1500pt list

Post by Rivan on Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:24 pm

You're confusing "to wound" vs "to hit" Smile

The dread will need 3+ to hit because of BS4 and the S8 shot will need 2+ to wound vs. T4 models.

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Re: My first 1500pt list

Post by ossidium on Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:26 pm

THERE WE GO Smile

thanks again Rivan! I really really want to find a way to squeeze these into the army...

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Re: My first 1500pt list

Post by Rivan on Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:32 pm

Definitely nice to have at least 1 of these. Just remember that redundancy with units is very effective. Simply put, 1 psyfleman dread is nice but 2 is MUCH BETTER. The same goes for everything else (LR's, RB's, etc).

The concept is target saturation. If you have multiple units on the table that can be a threat, your opponent will have to split his fire or use target priority, meaning he won't (usually) be able to concentrate fire on just one target.

Now, you don't necessarily have to have 2 psyflemen dreads as long as you have other units that can serve the same function. In a 2000pt list I used recently against a CSM army, I only had 1 psyfleman dread. But I had 3 RB's as well as a LRR. Target saturation really helped because he had 8 obliterators.

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