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Post by TheCrimsonGlass Fri Jul 08, 2011 10:47 am

On a similar note, weren't Orks supposedly bio-engineered to fight Necrons millions of years ago?
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Post by DonFer Fri Jul 08, 2011 2:22 pm

No idea, if they were their creators failed miserably.
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Post by TheCrimsonGlass Fri Jul 08, 2011 2:41 pm

Yep. I found this on the Ork page of the Warhammer 40k Wiki:

Orks had been created, in times long past, as a warrior race by the long-vanished Brain Boyz. This theme recurs in recent editions, the Orks having been created to fight the Necrons in the great interstellar conflict called the War in Heaven that shattered the galactic civilization of the Old Ones that existed prior to the rise of the Eldar.
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Post by Aubec le noir Sat Jul 09, 2011 1:29 am

something went obviously wrong !! Razz Razz
talking about Orks ...
here are the goffs (Nobz and Scarboyz... i've got the nob 3)
http://solegends.com/citcat9x4/c93490-01.jpg
the superb gretchins
http://solegends.com/citcat9x4/c93491-01.jpg
and snakebites
http://solegends.com/citcat9x4/c93492-01.jpg

and some CSM
http://solegends.com/citcat9x4/c93493-01.jpg

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Post by TheCrimsonGlass Sat Jul 09, 2011 8:16 am

Gah those Orks. I swear they look like they were drawn by a caricature artist on the streets in New Orleans. They just look so silly IMO. I do like the CSM's still though.
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Post by Zealadin Sat Jul 09, 2011 8:34 am

There is lore that suggests nearly all the current sentient races (the major ones) (except Tau) were created by the Old Ones when it seemed that they would be unable to win the war against the Star Gods (and their Necron slave race).
The major weakness of this opponent being psykers.
That is why nearly all races have a certain amount of psychic ability, orcs latently, eldar strongly, and humans in a more balanced form.

Its further been suggested that these races then caused the creation of the chaos gods, or at the very least their empowerment as the emotions of sentient races filled the warp, and polarised it rather negatively.
The Tyranids, being an organism/attempt to then end all life in the universe, effectively starving the chaos gods.
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Post by Constantine Sat Jul 09, 2011 1:02 pm

Zealadin wrote:There is lore that suggests nearly all the current sentient races (the major ones) (except Tau) were created by the Old Ones when it seemed that they would be unable to win the war against the Star Gods (and their Necron slave race).
The major weakness of this opponent being psykers.
That is why nearly all races have a certain amount of psychic ability, orcs latently, eldar strongly, and humans in a more balanced form.

Its further been suggested that these races then caused the creation of the chaos gods, or at the very least their empowerment as the emotions of sentient races filled the warp, and polarised it rather negatively.
The Tyranids, being an organism/attempt to then end all life in the universe, effectively starving the chaos gods.

Where do you get all of this info from Brother? scratch
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Post by TheCrimsonGlass Sat Jul 09, 2011 7:54 pm

I've actually heard this too. I think I simply read it on the 40k wiki though.
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Post by Aubec le noir Mon Jul 11, 2011 6:31 am

another wave of old minis
today it's Chaos :
flesh hounds ... another version (i don't like them much too bulky for me Evil or Very Mad )
http://solegends.com/citcat94/cat1994041-03.jpg
bloodletters and deamonettes (idem Evil or Very Mad )
http://solegends.com/citcat94/cat1994045-03.jpg
and because the plastic ones are so ugly i give your the first metal catachan fighters ... really better
http://solegends.com/citcat94/cat1994120-03.jpg
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Post by TheCrimsonGlass Mon Jul 11, 2011 7:35 am

Oh yes, those flesh hound have gained a lot of weight since you last posted them Razz

They should diet, or at try to suck in the beer gut. They aren't Plaguebearers!
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Post by Aubec le noir Mon Jul 11, 2011 7:51 am

yes i know it's not the best metal models ever sculpted ! Evil or Very Mad
to be honest i prefer (for the bloodletters not the deamonettes) the new plastic ones ... more fidel to the first concept ... they would be awful in metal and not in plastic ! Razz Razz
for the deamonettes ... i love the metal ones created by Juan Diaz just before the ugly plastic ones that GW sales now !
(those : http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/5/58/Daemonettes_miniatures.jpg )
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Post by TheCrimsonGlass Mon Jul 11, 2011 7:55 am

I MUCH prefer the current bloodletters. They're really quite menacing looking. The older ones are basically just red, musclely humanoids.

I don't really like those first daemonettes you posted, but these look significantly better. I guess GW has to keep changing them in order to keep making money (and to update the with the new codexes and editions), but they really already hit the nail on the head with a lot of models. Once you've already reached the top, there's nowhere to go but down...
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Post by Constantine Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:28 am

Aubec le noir wrote:yes i know it's not the best metal models ever sculpted ! Evil or Very Mad
to be honest i prefer (for the bloodletters not the deamonettes) the new plastic ones ... more fidel to the first concept ... they would be awful in metal and not in plastic ! Razz Razz
for the deamonettes ... i love the metal ones created by Juan Diaz just before the ugly plastic ones that GW sales now !
(those : http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/5/58/Daemonettes_miniatures.jpg )
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These are my favorite incarnations of the Daemonettes also!
I have a conversion project going which is turning them into Wood elf Wardancers!

@ Brother BrentK:
You should site your new Signature to ensure that the Brother that wrote it doesn't sue you for plagarism Shocked LOL! This is just my ingrained University training coming to the forefront Razz
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Post by Aubec le noir Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:35 am

Constantine wrote:These are my favorite incarnations of the Daemonettes also! I have a conversion project going which is turning them into Wood elf Wardancers!
yes i saw your war dancer project and i thought it was a very cool idea and that your conversion was gorgeous
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Post by Constantine Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:43 am

Aubec le noir wrote:
Constantine wrote:These are my favorite incarnations of the Daemonettes also! I have a conversion project going which is turning them into Wood elf Wardancers!
yes i saw your war dancer project and i thought it was a very cool idea and that your conversion was gorgeous
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Post by Klomster Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:47 am

The new deamonettes work great for female conversions.

Like necromunda gangers, elfs, and other females.
Not that good as actual deamons, unless you work a bit on them.

As for the fluff parts that is basic stuff that is "Shrouded in mystery" aka, nothing that proves or disproves it as canon.
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Post by Valten Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:51 am

Constantine wrote:
Aubec le noir wrote:
Constantine wrote:These are my favorite incarnations of the Daemonettes also! I have a conversion project going which is turning them into Wood elf Wardancers!
yes i saw your war dancer project and i thought it was a very cool idea and that your conversion was gorgeous
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Thank you Brother!
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Lol, I can just imagine there is a part of your brain behind a vault door with two Purifiers standing guard!
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Post by TheCrimsonGlass Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:59 am

We should send a small squad of paladins in there to steal all his ideas Twisted Evil
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Post by Aubec le noir Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:12 am

i think that idea would be pretty cool too !
maybe in giving them (iron wire and green stuff) another articulation ... very chaotic and unnatural imho !! Razz
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Post by TheCrimsonGlass Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:15 am

Yeah but it's not heretical if we say the purifiers guarding the vault are the true heretics! Watch out Brother Constantine, we're coming for you and all of your creativity! Twisted Evil

I got the whole signature citing business handled btw (as you can see...).
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Post by GMKDynamis Mon Jul 11, 2011 10:49 am

As GK's facing purifiers and accusing them of being heretics... all that comes to mind is saying. " Damn, that cleansing flame burns! Okay, stick a fork in me I'm welldone." sunny
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Post by TheCrimsonGlass Mon Jul 11, 2011 10:59 am

pshfft. Holocaust. But this doesn't need to become a CF v Holocaust debate Razz
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Post by Constantine Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:11 pm

Valten wrote:
Constantine wrote:
Aubec le noir wrote:
Constantine wrote:These are my favorite incarnations of the Daemonettes also! I have a conversion project going which is turning them into Wood elf Wardancers!
yes i saw your war dancer project and i thought it was a very cool idea and that your conversion was gorgeous
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Thank you Brother!
This thread has started me thinking about converting the new plastic Blood Thirsters to be more like the Rouge Trader era ones by extending their torsos, and limbs....... scratch Don't really have the money to do this right now, but it is definitely stored away in the CCV (Constantine Conversion Vault) Razz

Lol, I can just imagine there is a part of your brain behind a vault door with two Purifiers standing guard!

Your vision probably isn't far from the truth Brother Razz , although I picture it being guarded by Paladins and all kinds of ingenious traps for those trying to loot it Twisted Evil I would hate for Grey Knights to lose their lives trying to loot the vault (For rest assured NONE SHALL PASS) when really all you have to do is ask and I will gladly share my thoughts Wink

I am thinking more and more about the Bloodletter conversions now! Rolling Eyes
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Post by TheCrimsonGlass Mon Jul 11, 2011 2:14 pm

None shall pass you say? Well for a mere $60 I can get myself a Balrog model Twisted Evil
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Post by GMKDynamis Mon Jul 11, 2011 6:35 pm

Does anyone remember the word "friend" in elvish tongue? A Balrog? Our Librarian would make hamburger meat of a large daemon like that. I for one, always admired Gandalf, but never seen him kick butt like Yoda or use magic to smack Harry Potter upside the head, rubbing that crappy thunderbolt right off like a cheap press on tatoo! He probably forgot his mana potion in viles, geritol powder in tablet form, and viagra root silent
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