Latest GK rumours

 :: Community

Page 6 of 16 Previous  1 ... 5, 6, 7 ... 11 ... 16  Next

View previous topic View next topic Go down

Re: Latest GK rumours

Post by Brother Blutcher on Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:42 am

That is to say going back to the original "Slave to Darkness" army list... Hope the Elite style won't be only represented by specil habilities... I was very enthousiastic by the old stats...

Brother Blutcher
Justicar
Justicar

Number of posts : 663
Age : 41
Registration date : 2009-12-20

Grey knight
stats:

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Latest GK rumours

Post by Brother Blutcher on Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:14 am

Agree with you Brother Rivan, but I also keep my finger crssed tightly! Wink

Brother Blutcher
Justicar
Justicar

Number of posts : 663
Age : 41
Registration date : 2009-12-20

Grey knight
stats:

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Latest GK rumours

Post by Zealadin on Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:59 am

The problem is that an army that relies too heavily on 'abilities' generally doesn't actually do that well....
Eldar rely heavily on psychic powers and its just a fail. Psychic defence turns the entire army into a joke. (plus GWS in its wisdom decides to work out all costings WITH psychic powers active)

Mechanics like those of the SoB which can't be blocked and can be worked around to be reliable are good for gaming.
Psychic powers are more like combat drugs to me. You include them or the ability to use them because you hope they will do well. But you can't rely on them for success.

If we suddenly see an army that needs psychic powers to be worthwhile to play we will instantly have an army that is at a severe disadvantage when hoods or similar are on the table.

Our base stats are similar to SM already, which is fine since we are a very specialised kind of SM, so specialised that we aren't really SM at all anymore. That said the differences we have now are pretty important and actually represent the fluff really nicely.
Afterall there is a reason that GK's fight the daemons, everyone else goes insane at the sight of them, and because they are specially trained and altered to deal with them.

Zealadin
Grand Master
Grand Master

Number of posts : 3279
Age : 29
Location : Sydney Australia
Army : Retired Eldar, Puritan Grey Knights, Dark Eldar
Registration date : 2008-09-14

Grey knight
stats:

View user profile http://kael-din.com/

Back to top Go down

Re: Latest GK rumours

Post by Aubec le noir on Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:22 am

i agree with the last part of your post brother Z.
what i really will miss (if rumours are true) is the "fearless" capability of our GKs... it's good with the fluff and good to play, imho, even if i know that some of my fellow brothers would prefer the rule "and they shall..."
Aubec pirat

Aubec le noir
Adeptus Moderatus
Adeptus Moderatus

Number of posts : 3638
Age : 47
Location : France
Army : 40K : GK (curious isn't it ;-) ) WHB : Dwarfs, Ogres, Mercs
Registration date : 2009-11-01

Grey knight
stats:

View user profile http://lacompagniephoenix.bb-fr.com

Back to top Go down

Re: Latest GK rumours

Post by DarkRonin on Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:32 am

Giving us base Marine stats and "And They Shall Know No Fear..." makes me cringe. These rumors are making me more and more worried that we will lose what it truly means to be Grey Knights.

We are the finest warriors within the galaxy. Greater then the sum of all of the Space Marine Chapters, even the First Founding chapters. We are his greatest gift to Mankind, even if His subjects do not know it, we are there in the shadows protecting them from the unspeakable horrors that is but a mere breath away from devouring them.

The codex better arrive soon. The waiting for me was bearable now, but these rumors are making it harder for me to wait.

DarkRonin
Justicar
Justicar

Number of posts : 554
Age : 28
Location : United States
Army : Grey Knights, Iron Knights, Salamanders, Thousand Sons, Mono-Tzeentch Daemons
Registration date : 2009-10-25

Grey knight
stats:

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Latest GK rumours

Post by Klomster on Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:38 am

Gw will make us a run of the mill space marine chapter.

It will please all the little gamers out there, and attract the young folks that only think of the huge blades Gk has.
They will turn their backs on the vets like us and give us something horrendous.
That's how i feel now, but then i'm in a slight dip now and how i feel might be different later.

At least the jokaro wasn't in those rumours, only good thing i saw almost.
Dread is still heavy, yay...

Klomster
Adeptus Administratum
Adeptus Administratum

Number of posts : 4156
Age : 27
Location : -Data lost-
Army : Think positive, it will soon get worse. (Mechanicus)
Registration date : 2007-12-21

Grey knight
stats:

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Latest GK rumours

Post by hardrainfalling on Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:18 am

i am not so sure I still think theses rumours are full of wish thinking, I think GW will keep the GK special afterall they look like marines which is enough to sell them I dont think they need to make use marine stats to help sell in fact many of the kids will see ws5 and think oooooooh Smile

hardrainfalling
Henchmen
Henchmen

Number of posts : 121
Age : 45
Location : Lurking , i likes lurking
Army : Greyknights/ eldar/ guard/ daemons
Registration date : 2011-02-08

View user profile http://www.storm-crow.co.uk

Back to top Go down

Re: Latest GK rumours

Post by Brother Blutcher on Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:44 am

Just hope GK will remain the "coming from nowhere" Emperor's finest warriors, fighting the most dangerous ennemies of mankind.... Even to sacrifice themselves if necessary.

For me the old Dex just had to be upgraded with little weapon stats, and fast&heavy slots (like redeemer!)...

Just hope GW won't just create a kid attractive dex... Arrow

Brother Blutcher
Justicar
Justicar

Number of posts : 663
Age : 41
Registration date : 2009-12-20

Grey knight
stats:

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Latest GK rumours

Post by DarkRonin on Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:56 am

I'm with you about the old Dex, Brother Butcher, it really does need some just changes.

DarkRonin
Justicar
Justicar

Number of posts : 554
Age : 28
Location : United States
Army : Grey Knights, Iron Knights, Salamanders, Thousand Sons, Mono-Tzeentch Daemons
Registration date : 2009-10-25

Grey knight
stats:

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Latest GK rumours

Post by Sai on Thu Feb 10, 2011 11:45 am

And so it came to be that in the closing century of the 41st Millennium a great change came to the Grey Knights. With Abaddon's 13th Black Crusade a tide of filth had flooded forth from the Eye of Terror and laid claim to hundred's of the Imperium's worlds, destroying entire civilisations and spreading the poison of heresy far into the segmentum. While the Astartes and Imperial guard did what they could to regain what was lost, often it fell to the Daemonhunters to take back and reconsecrate that which the Great Enemy had despoiled. But it was not enough. While the daemonic were often easy prey to the divine wrath of the Grey Knights, their mortal vassals, whether they be human, alien or renegade astartes, often overwhelmed the lone cruisers and strike forces of The Emperor's chosen, forcing a declaration of exterminatus on worlds which might otherwise be saved.

The Ordo Malleus moved to address this handicap in three ways. Firstly, the recruited more heavilly, swelling the numbers of Knights by any means necessary, often depopulating entire feral worlds for a handful of potentials. Secondly, they expanded the armoury of the Grey Knights, giving them access to any weapon or vehicle that their brother chapters used. Lastly, they were trained to use their formidable psychic might more often as a weapon rather than to protect themselves against the vile depredations of the daemonic.

Within the grand forum of Titan, many embraced these changes, seeing them as an opportunity to better protect the Imperium from it's multitude of foes. Others, however, resisted the change. The Emperor given mandate of the Grey Knights was to battle the daemonic, not to wage conventional warfare across the galaxy. By pushing recruitment, relatively low ranking marines were promoted to command the recruits. Attrition among men and material increased hugely as inexperienced leaders led task forces into suicidal, and often pointless, conflicts. The expansion of the armoury only served to exacerbate these losses as Grey Knights found themselves encaged in burning Rhinos rather than safely transported within the adamantium hulls of the far rarer Landraiders. Most dangerous of all, the heavy use of psychic powers drained task forces of psychic protection whilst simultaneously opening them to daemonic assault.

The traditionalists saw that the very soul of their chapter was under threat. Whilst measures needed to be taken to allow the deamonhunters to reach their quarry, The Emperor had not intended for the Grey Knights to be drawn into combat with mere mortals. The deaths of the alien, mutant and heretic were not their aim, and the new Grey Knight commanders, be they Captains or Inquisitors, used their powers without restraint, blind to the danger they posed. If the Administratum were to discover that the Grey Knights numbered in the thousands and were wielding such energies, the entire organisation might ind itself excommunicated.

A schism within the Grey Knights was unthinkable. No Grey Knight had ever turned from The Emperor's light, and nor could they. But the Grey Knights had to be reined in, reminded of their place in the Imperium. In secret, a conclave of Inquisitors and Captains set out to remind their brothers of their duty.

By force, if necessary.

Sai
Justicar
Justicar

Number of posts : 749
Age : 33
Registration date : 2010-12-04

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Latest GK rumours

Post by Klomster on Thu Feb 10, 2011 11:52 am

That text fills me with hate and despair.

If the rumours are true, it's more or less that we become, something less than what we used to be.
I sincerely hope this isn't the truth.

Klomster
Adeptus Administratum
Adeptus Administratum

Number of posts : 4156
Age : 27
Location : -Data lost-
Army : Think positive, it will soon get worse. (Mechanicus)
Registration date : 2007-12-21

Grey knight
stats:

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Latest GK rumours

Post by Sai on Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:08 pm

Join the Traditionalists.
Hunt down dreadknights with traditional dreadnoughts.
Blast stormravens out of the sky with twin godhammers.
Incinerate Paladins and eviscerate overpowered librarians on Grand Master nemesis force weapons.

Save your chapter's soul.

Sai
Justicar
Justicar

Number of posts : 749
Age : 33
Registration date : 2010-12-04

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Latest GK rumours

Post by raven925 on Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:21 pm

Thats some boooo-shit right there...

raven925
Henchmen
Henchmen

Number of posts : 201
Age : 23
Location : Space
Army : Grey Knights
Registration date : 2009-06-09

Grey knight
stats:

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Latest GK rumours

Post by Sai on Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:07 pm

I thought it was an OK background piece for something I came up with while sitting on the crapper at work. Alas, my dreams of writing a novel are dashed against the rocks of criticism. Woe is me.

Sai
Justicar
Justicar

Number of posts : 749
Age : 33
Registration date : 2010-12-04

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Latest GK rumours

Post by raven925 on Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:16 pm

Oh snap, i didnt know you made that up. i thought it was fluff that GW made up.... you convinced me to thinking it was real. good work.

raven925
Henchmen
Henchmen

Number of posts : 201
Age : 23
Location : Space
Army : Grey Knights
Registration date : 2009-06-09

Grey knight
stats:

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Latest GK rumours

Post by Pyriel on Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:36 pm

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/540/344883.page

Pic of the dreadknight.
it turned out to actually BE a knight piloting a suit-mech.
Kind of like a tau jump suit on steroids.

Pyriel
Grey Knight
Grey Knight

Number of posts : 394
Army : Pure GK, Salamanders, orks
Registration date : 2008-03-07

Grey knight
stats:

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Latest GK rumours

Post by raven925 on Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:40 pm

Pyriel wrote:http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/540/344883.page

Pic of the dreadknight.
it turned out to actually BE a knight piloting a suit-mech.
Kind of like a tau jump suit on steroids.

already posted in another thread, but good find.

raven925
Henchmen
Henchmen

Number of posts : 201
Age : 23
Location : Space
Army : Grey Knights
Registration date : 2009-06-09

Grey knight
stats:

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Latest GK rumours

Post by Pyriel on Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:21 pm

Im sorry for the repost then, I couldnt find it already posted so I thought I could contribute.

Pyriel
Grey Knight
Grey Knight

Number of posts : 394
Army : Pure GK, Salamanders, orks
Registration date : 2008-03-07

Grey knight
stats:

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Latest GK rumours

Post by Nausaden on Thu Feb 10, 2011 7:37 pm

My Brothers are all getting up in their power armor; though changes are in order it will all be for the best.

I tire of being one upped by pathetic, run of the mill chapters who outclass us.

I tire of our pyschic arsenal being CRAP.

I tire of having our elite army destroyed; overpriced and unable to be played competitvly.

I tire of each and every game being a hard fought effort just to tie, seeing my handful of Knights die for nothing. Daemon players dare not face me, so all there is are other SM.

Suffice to say, this codex and all the improvements are well worth whatever sacrifice is needed. Grey Knights are given the best of the best; the most elite warriors and incorruptible titans, and this will not change. We should be able to get whatever vehicle or weapon we need, and if this means using rhinos and such then so be it. Personally, I'll still be fielding LR's anyway. Well, that and teleport squads.
Welcome these new changes Brothers; 3 years of using 3rd edition and being handicapped so horrendously can finally to an end.

Nausaden
Terminator
Terminator

Number of posts : 1085
Age : 24
Army : Pure Grey Knights *Daemon Hunters*
Registration date : 2009-08-03

Grey knight
stats:

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Latest GK rumours

Post by Zealadin on Fri Feb 11, 2011 1:10 am

There are many reasons why the GK chapter can't just expand the way the normal SM chapters do.
The indoctrination process is just huge, they need special individuals, and while the SM players hate to hear it, the training of a GK is far more than any normal SM ever receives.
Thats why no GK has ever fallen to chaos (an extremely important peice of fluff - if this ever changes I'll never touch GK again).

Also I'd rather play a handicapped army than something designed just to appeal to the masses to make sales.

For instance dreads still being heavy makes sense, GKs dislike dreads, so should be more limited than a SM codex is.
GK have to be fearless. It may have drawbacks, but you don't fight chaos without fearless, it just doesn't work.
GK may be psykers, but it wouldn't make sense to make them full out psykers the way that runepriests or eldar are.
Personally I think they should get limited powers like eldar warlocks. Always available and not blockable, useful but not gamebraking in their success or use.
A null rod upgrade that is cheap and can go into any squad might be quite cool - the ability to totally stop psychic powers as a tradeoff. This being said its a dangerous route to take... psychic powers have been handed out like candy lately. Some armies really suffer without them.

You just said that all you face is Space Marines Nausaden.. what happens when all you face is SM and other GK... can you really say that would be better?

Dark Eldar were reasonably well designed, they managed to generally stick to their lore, and despite losing a large amount of anti tank ability are still an interesting army. Not on par with SW or IG but still good.
If they do the same with GK I'll be happy.
There be an initial huge rush to the new army, but they need to be hard to play not just a faceroll army like IG and SW, that way real people stick around.


Zealadin
Grand Master
Grand Master

Number of posts : 3279
Age : 29
Location : Sydney Australia
Army : Retired Eldar, Puritan Grey Knights, Dark Eldar
Registration date : 2008-09-14

Grey knight
stats:

View user profile http://kael-din.com/

Back to top Go down

Re: Latest GK rumours

Post by Klomster on Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:11 am

*Looking at pics of dreadknights.*

Hmmm, i could have started to puke, overall not impressed.

Gk models are at least looking nice. I just hope i didn't see a bolter there.
GKT's are looking worse as to what i can make out.

Overall, i'm starting to not like this update more and more.
And the new image the army has in that pic just feels wrong.

Gk's in front of LR and Rhino, Fuck yeah.
With stormravens, ...... ok, um.

AND TRANSFORMERS!

*Sulk, sulk*

Klomster
Adeptus Administratum
Adeptus Administratum

Number of posts : 4156
Age : 27
Location : -Data lost-
Army : Think positive, it will soon get worse. (Mechanicus)
Registration date : 2007-12-21

Grey knight
stats:

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Latest GK rumours

Post by hardrainfalling on Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:51 am

i quite like them remind me of the penitent engine for sisters , hard to tell from a blurred pic but better pics are sure to follow, a good set of weapons too , the nearest we get to a knight class titan anyway , bulking it out with plastic card would be too hard

hardrainfalling
Henchmen
Henchmen

Number of posts : 121
Age : 45
Location : Lurking , i likes lurking
Army : Greyknights/ eldar/ guard/ daemons
Registration date : 2011-02-08

View user profile http://www.storm-crow.co.uk

Back to top Go down

Re: Latest GK rumours

Post by Spartan on Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:08 am

Not sure if these have been posted but 3 pics, dreadknight one above I know Wink but Army Picture and Codex also may be new to you all.

Just saw the other post saying new pics HERE but for all you who can't clicky clicky on the link provided in that post see below Smile




Spartan
Grey Knight
Grey Knight

Number of posts : 319
Age : 35
Location : Hunting down and destroying daemonic taint wherever it may be found.
Army : Pure Grey Knights and thats Grey Knights Only
Registration date : 2008-03-04

Grey knight
stats:

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Latest GK rumours

Post by hardrainfalling on Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:58 am

my solution would be to get this
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Daemonhunters_/GREY-KNIGHTS-DREADNOUGHT-BODY.html
to replace body but i'll reserve judgement until clearer pics

hardrainfalling
Henchmen
Henchmen

Number of posts : 121
Age : 45
Location : Lurking , i likes lurking
Army : Greyknights/ eldar/ guard/ daemons
Registration date : 2011-02-08

View user profile http://www.storm-crow.co.uk

Back to top Go down

Re: Latest GK rumours

Post by Aubec le noir on Fri Feb 11, 2011 8:09 am

what i forgot when i first saw the DK is that its form and bulk reminds me of the "small'" Knight Titan (Titan Chevalier) of the old days (citadel catalogue 1991 or even before) that could be interesting regarding fluff...
I hope a better picture soon, so we can discuss on the shape of the engine in a better way
Aubec pirat

Aubec le noir
Adeptus Moderatus
Adeptus Moderatus

Number of posts : 3638
Age : 47
Location : France
Army : 40K : GK (curious isn't it ;-) ) WHB : Dwarfs, Ogres, Mercs
Registration date : 2009-11-01

Grey knight
stats:

View user profile http://lacompagniephoenix.bb-fr.com

Back to top Go down

Re: Latest GK rumours

Post by Sponsored content Today at 9:10 am


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

Page 6 of 16 Previous  1 ... 5, 6, 7 ... 11 ... 16  Next

View previous topic View next topic Back to top

- Similar topics

 :: Community

 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum