Three LR in 1000points

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Three LR in 1000points

Post by madbakery on Wed Oct 06, 2010 1:40 am

Hi Brothers,

I want to field three Land Raiders in 1000 points like this:

HQ

BC 61points

Troops

IST times nine 90points

IST times nine 90points

Heavy Support

LR 250Points

LR 250Points

LR 250Points

991points

What do you think?

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Re: Three LR in 1000points

Post by DarkRonin on Wed Oct 06, 2010 7:03 am

It's interesting, but you won't be able to get those IST's onto the Land Raiders. You might want to cut down on on the IST squad size and consider giving them a special weapon, that's where the real strength of the unit comes into play.

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Re: Three LR in 1000points

Post by Rivan on Wed Oct 06, 2010 7:29 am

Hmmm, actually anyone can ride in the LR's since they are HS choices.

3 LRs in a 1000 pt list will really be intimidating Razz

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Re: Three LR in 1000points

Post by Aubec le noir on Wed Oct 06, 2010 7:38 am

but will have an awful composition note Shocked Shocked Evil or Very Mad
tell us what will do this army Brother Wink
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Re: Three LR in 1000points

Post by DarkRonin on Wed Oct 06, 2010 8:46 am

They may be heavy support choices, but the entry does say that they may only transport about 10 PAGK or 5 GKT.

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Re: Three LR in 1000points

Post by Rivan on Wed Oct 06, 2010 8:52 am

Interesting, it does say that in the codex but it does say "may carry" and not "may only carry". I've always assumed that's for counting purposes only. Every tournament I've been to allows any unit to embark in a NON-DEDICATED vehicle that uses its own FOC slot. Since our LR's use the HS FOC slots and are not considered DEDICATED transports, they should be available for the IST to use. At least that's how its been at the GT's I've been to.

It could be that everybody missed that particular detail in our entry regarding GK's and GKT's scratch If that is so, that's one more really broken rule w/ our codex.

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Re: Three LR in 1000points

Post by madbakery on Wed Oct 06, 2010 6:29 pm

I'm under the impression that stormtroopers can ride in LR's, and they will be for my battles. I'm also cutting the IST down to 7 each and giving them 2 meltas each squad (I'm not going to make very many friends with this list)

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Re: Three LR in 1000points

Post by DarkRonin on Wed Oct 06, 2010 8:23 pm

Well the entry does say that they are Grey Knight vehicles, so I would only assume that only GK's with an Inquisitor only as an IC is allowed to join in. That's just my take on it

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Re: Three LR in 1000points

Post by Rivan on Wed Oct 06, 2010 11:38 pm

DarkRonin wrote:Well the entry does say that they are Grey Knight vehicles, so I would only assume that only GK's with an Inquisitor only as an IC is allowed to join in. That's just my take on it

Fluffwise it does make sense that only GKs can use GK LRs. I don't put my ISTs in the LRs anyway. However, it would be nice to be able to if the need arises. I wonder what our other Brothers' takes on it are? scratch

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Re: Three LR in 1000points

Post by NemesisForce on Thu Oct 07, 2010 12:19 am

Being a Heavy support choice and not a dedicated transport the IST can definitely hitch a ride in them. I do agree though that fluff-wise it would be a bit odd for IST to be their sole occupants.

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Re: Three LR in 1000points

Post by Zealadin on Thu Oct 07, 2010 5:45 am

Not going to win any friends, and probably not that many battles either.
You only have two scoring units, and your damage output is almost non existant. Sure you are impossible to kill, but even if you manage to demech your opponent you have nothing to kill him with.

I'd be more inclined to try 2 LRs with two squads of PAGK inside at this point level, you'll lose the meltas but will have squads inside that can shoot and assault quite well.

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Re: Three LR in 1000points

Post by bigbri on Thu Oct 07, 2010 6:18 am

Having read the codex I agree it looks like ISTs can't ride in LR's. However in the old chapter approved I'm sure it said allied IG could, so if they can I think everything should.
While 3 LR's is fearsome it seems kinda pointless to me. Raiders work as anti tank units, but at 1k pts you're not gonna be dealing with lots of heavy vehicles. Plus opponents will probably still have tons of melta for popping transports and stuff and melta > LR At 1k pts you can actually do a fairly fearsome pure GK army that can give even new codexes a run for their money.

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Re: Three LR in 1000points

Post by Primarch on Thu Oct 07, 2010 6:28 am

can I have a shot at this? Razz

How about:

HQ
BC - 61 pts

Troops
7 IST, 2x meltaguns 90 pts

7 IST, 2x flamers 80 pts

HS
LR + extra armour - 255 pts

LRC 255 pts

LRC 255 pts

Total 996

I'm thinking this would be even more scary, lots of troop slaughtering stuff here plus a bit of AT. One thing, that annoys me is that the BC is 61 points, who decided to add one annoying point to that??? It could have been 60, a nice round number Razz Dunno, maybe give the BC bionics or whatever thats 5 pts.

Land raider crusaders are land raiders, they're just crusading land raiders

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Re: Three LR in 1000points

Post by Klomster on Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:05 am

Have the stormtroopers carry flamers.

Use land raider crusaders. And 1 godhammer, there is usually not many tanks in that low points and people usually try to put in as much punch as possible. Meaning either impressive expensive units or lots of cheap crap.

So have the stormies ride around in the crusaders, the crusaders shoot infantry up by getting within rapid fire and tag-teaming to minimise a squad a turn.
Godhammers picks of heavy targets.

Hmmm, i wonder if the BC can join stormtroopers, i guess he can Razz

And if an important enemy infatry unit gets close, you surround them with the crusaders, have the stormtroopers disembark and flame and rapid fire those bastards.

Hopefully they are dead by now, if not, let the godhammer shoot at it too.

And it is about here you loose your stormies.


I dunno, i'd get 2 land raiders and some terminators for my grand master and let it rip.

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Re: Three LR in 1000points

Post by Brother Blutcher on Thu Oct 07, 2010 6:04 pm

I don't find it very fairplay to field 3 LRs on a 1000pts roster...

But indeed it would be very impressive!

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Re: Three LR in 1000points

Post by Primarch on Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:28 pm

Only fair if you play against IG Razz

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Re: Three LR in 1000points

Post by Zealadin on Fri Oct 08, 2010 6:01 am

If you could take LRR's I'd be tempted to say give it a try, but I just don't think it will work in too many cases.
Anyone highly mobile will really hurt you, and anyone with really good AT will do the same, even someone uses a run of the mill razorspam or rhino full of melta spam will roll you.
You won't do enough damage vs hordes, and other super elite armies have ways of popping LR's with ease.

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