2000 pt mechanized list -- possible tourney choice

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2000 pt mechanized list -- possible tourney choice

Post by Rivan on Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:04 pm

Generated a completely mechanized list derived from Brother Caesarian's 1850 "Holy Rollers" and wanted to know what you guys think.

HQ - GM w/ m-c nfw, icon, incense, grimoire, hood & hammerhand
Ret: 4 GKT's (1 'cinnie, 1 TH/SS)
TR - 7 x PAGK (1 'cinnie)
TR - 7 x PAGK (1 'cinnie)
TR - 5 x IST (2 melta guns)
Rhino w/ ea & sl
TR - 5 x IST (2 melta guns)
Rhino w/ ea & sl
HS - LR w/ ea & sl
HS - LR w/ ea & sl
HS - LR w/ ea & sl

I still have 116 pts to play with so several options possible:
a) add 4 more PAGKs to make 9-man squads
b) add 10 more ISTs to make 10-man squads
c) add 2 PAGKs and 6 IST to make them all 8-man squads
d) OR, add an EL Inq w/ art. armor, TH and SS; plus add 1 PAGK and 2 ISTs
(Inq will join w/ the 7-man PAGK squad)

Thoughts?

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Re: 2000 pt mechanized list -- possible tourney choice

Post by Aubec le noir on Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:15 pm

don't have enough LR for the moment to play this list Razz
but if i had to choose i'll play an all 8 squads, but no inquisitor
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Re: 2000 pt mechanized list -- possible tourney choice

Post by rogueuk on Tue Sep 21, 2010 4:07 pm

yeah i agree have PAGK and IST all 8 man strong

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Re: 2000 pt mechanized list -- possible tourney choice

Post by NemesisForce on Tue Sep 21, 2010 5:51 pm

I like the 8-man idea as well. Or add a few more IST and use Chimeras instead of Rhinos.

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Re: 2000 pt mechanized list -- possible tourney choice

Post by Rivan on Tue Sep 21, 2010 6:15 pm

NemesisForce wrote:I like the 8-man idea as well. Or add a few more IST and use Chimeras instead of Rhinos.

You read my mind and beat me to it NF Razz
I'll swap the rhinos for standard chimeras and I still have enough to add 4 more IST. This gives me 7-man squads all around and 12 more 36" range shots. Plus I can fire both meltas from the chimeras' firepoints vice only 1 from the rhinos.
I'm actually liking this list for GT in Nov. I thinks it's more competitive vs all-comers plus gives me more scoring units.
Side benefit - it's also more colorful on the tabletop for the painting competition Very Happy

Not sure if I can score max comp points again but from the opinions I got from the last tourney, I don't think it'll change much. Several players there asked me why I wasn't running 3 raiders Razz

While I really prefer playing an all GK list, this one I think might be more practical in a GT.

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Re: 2000 pt mechanized list -- possible tourney choice

Post by MJSwasey on Tue Sep 21, 2010 7:09 pm

In any really competitive list with 3 land raiders, I like to have the El Inq with tarot. He's super cheap, is extra wounds for a squad, and getting first turn is almost necessary versus tau or guard to pop smoke.

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Re: 2000 pt mechanized list -- possible tourney choice

Post by Rivan on Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:05 pm

MJSwasey wrote:In any really competitive list with 3 land raiders, I like to have the El Inq with tarot. He's super cheap, is extra wounds for a squad, and getting first turn is almost necessary versus tau or guard to pop smoke.

Going first will definitely help with this build. Although, in some missions, I'd rather have the last turn for last minute objective grabs or what not. I guess I'll just have to rely on terrain if possible when going second Very Happy

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Re: 2000 pt mechanized list -- possible tourney choice

Post by MJSwasey on Wed Sep 22, 2010 12:15 am

Well don't forget if you win the roll you can still choose to go second.

And of course, theres LR stacking. You can put one LR Sideways, , and put the other two behind it, facing forward to give them a cover save. Careful angling can also put the chimeras in the middle of this too, or you could just have two LR in front. Regardless, this method leaves only 1 of your tanks open to shooting, gives 2 LR a cover save, and makes the little ones out of LOS, while allowing you to deploy against your forward line and not worry about cover. While it may not seem natural to drive a LR across the board sideways, i remind myself to do it any my other units thank me!


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Re: 2000 pt mechanized list -- possible tourney choice

Post by Grimhack on Wed Sep 22, 2010 5:24 am

About the sideways driving, it's also the best you can do with rhino's as they have the same armour value at the side and if they do get wrecked or immobilised, then you are another few inches closer or have a big chunk of cover to hide behind.

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