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Post by Grimhack on Mon Jun 07, 2010 4:52 pm

Just be carefull of those nasty eldar with their spiffy tanks that zoom all over the place and drop a huge load of banshees. Those girls are nasty when you have doom on your squad.

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Re: North American 40K Tournament

Post by Brother Ezekiel on Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:03 pm

Aren't all girls nasty when theyr enraged?Or its that time...

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Re: North American 40K Tournament

Post by Rivan on Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:06 pm

Grimhack wrote:Just be carefull of those nasty eldar with their spiffy tanks that zoom all over the place and drop a huge load of banshees. Those girls are nasty when you have doom on your squad.

Yup. I know from experience how nasty those can be (not to mention a squad of fire dragons dropping in front of your tanks). Psychic hood should give me a relatively 50/50 chance of countering doom while the multitude of psycannon shots can hopefully help stun or immobilize those pesky grav tanks (assuming the lascannons don't blow them up first).

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Re: North American 40K Tournament

Post by Rivan on Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:19 pm

Brother Ezekiel wrote:Aren't all girls nasty when theyr enraged?Or its that time...

You do have a point there Brother E, but THESE girls hack you up into tiny little pieces! Wait...some girls I know would do that too... scratch

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Re: North American 40K Tournament

Post by Brother Ezekiel on Mon Jun 07, 2010 6:11 pm

Rivan wrote:
Brother Ezekiel wrote:Aren't all girls nasty when theyr enraged?Or its that time...

You do have a point there Brother E, but THESE girls hack you up into tiny little pieces! Wait...some girls I know would do that too... scratch

Yeah I know that a lot girls from around here would do that too,for me being a heretic,for me being a competitor of theyr gods attention(actually since most,if not all daemon armies in here are Slaanshi and I don't give a damn about what the Prince of Plesure wants its not really that kind of competition,but I guess I'm compeating for the attention of all the Chaos gods so...) or because they don't want me in theyr Greater Good even when I told them about the uses for my superhuman qualities outside of battlefields or because they wanna eat me,or because theyr god doesn't actually care whos blood flows,just that it does.But when its that time of month you better be careful around them,because one slip of tongue might make you the first human being to enter orbit,without the need for a space shuddle.

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Re: North American 40K Tournament

Post by Rivan on Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:11 pm

Ok, final evolution of the list after allocating the remaining 41 pts.

HQ - GM w/ m-c nfw, p-cannon, si, ph, auspex & HH
3 GKTs (1 p-cannon)
TR - 5 x PAGK (2 p-cannons; frags, targeter & auspex)
TR - 5 x PAGK (2 p-cannons; frags, targeter & auspex)
TR - 5 x PAGK (2 p-cannons; frags, targeter & auspex)
TR - 5 x PAGK (2 p-cannons; frags, targeter & auspex)
HS - LR w/ ea, pmsb, s-light & sl
HS - LR w/ ea, pmsb, s-light & sl

Total: 1749

All the wargear fits the theme/philosophy of the list. The targeters will help me maximize my range finding and shooting while each unit's auspex can help detect any would be infiltrators that might get too close.

Of course, I could have just added another PAGK but I've always wanted my units to be "symmetrical" Razz I also considered giving up the smoke launchers in the first place to make 47 pts and get another GKT, but I think smoke launchers might come in handy in last minute objective grabs Very Happy

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Re: North American 40K Tournament

Post by Nausaden on Mon Jun 07, 2010 9:37 pm

Best of luck to you Brother Rivan, I know you've got the experience and skills to utilize it to its potential, but I can tell its going to be risky with such small squads of Grey Knights.

Still, it makes sense to have fewer Grey Knights; they are rare and amazing after all Very Happy

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Re: North American 40K Tournament

Post by raven925 on Mon Jun 07, 2010 11:53 pm

I think keeping the smoke is best, i wouldnt change it for anything sense we use old rules and it come in handy alot.

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Re: North American 40K Tournament

Post by NemesisForce on Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:07 am

Wasn't your next game Annhilitation? In that case you'll want to be shooting your lascannons every turn and won't want/need to be popping smoke.

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Re: North American 40K Tournament

Post by Rivan on Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:19 am

NemesisForce wrote:Wasn't your next game Annhilitation? In that case you'll want to be shooting your lascannons every turn and won't want/need to be popping smoke.

True. For that actual tourney round (and the 3rd one in July), I'll probably nix the smokes and add a GKT.

However, I was also gearing the list to be an all-around tourney list vs all-comers and in all scenarios to see if it would be competitive Very Happy

For the actual 2nd round tourney game (annihilation/pitched battle), the list will look this:

HQ - GM w/ m-c nfw, p-cannon, si, ph & HH
4 GKT's (1 p-cannon)
TR - 5 x PAGK (2 p-cannons; targeter)
TR - 5 x PAGK (2 p-cannons)
TR - 5 x PAGK (2 p-cannons)
TR - 5 x PAGK (2 p-cannons)
HS - LR w/ ea
HS - LR w/ ea

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Re: North American 40K Tournament

Post by NemesisForce on Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:07 pm

Actually, this would be a most excellent opportunity to throw in a Hellfire Dread. You'll still have more than enough p-cannons if you drop one GK squad to do it. Just a thought. Smile

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Post by Rivan on Wed Jun 09, 2010 8:43 pm

Hmmm, that's a good idea, very tempting.

2 high strength shots per turn can definitely help vs. heavy armor.

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Re: North American 40K Tournament

Post by NemesisForce on Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:43 pm

Not to mention the extra range and added mobility to move and shoot it gives you.

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Re: North American 40K Tournament

Post by Rivan on Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:21 pm

Ok, so here's how the list will look w/ the dread...I'm liking it. I still have 24 psycannon shots as well as having 5 lascannon shots plus a STR 8 shot from the missile launcher.

HQ - GM w/ m-c nfw, p-cannon, si, ph, auspex & HH
3 GKT's (1 p-cannon)
TR - 6 X PAGK (2 p-cannons; targeter, fg)
TR - 6 X PAGK (2 p-cannons; targeter, fg)
TR - 6 X PAGK (2 p-cannons; targeter, fg)
HS - LR w/ pmsb, ea & sl
HS - LR w/ ea & sl
HS - dread w/ twllc, ml, ea & sl

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Re: North American 40K Tournament

Post by NemesisForce on Thu Jun 10, 2010 7:55 pm

Me likey lot. Just the thought of 24 p-cannon shots makes me tingly all over. Hope the list works for you.

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Re: North American 40K Tournament

Post by Aubec le noir on Fri Jun 11, 2010 7:58 am

Oooh Yesss !!
24 psy cannon shots ... a dream come true !! Razz Razz
let's see if the list is competitive
hope you'll kick a lot of chaos/xenos/heretics 's asses brother rivan ! Twisted Evil
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Re: North American 40K Tournament

Post by Rivan on Fri Jun 11, 2010 8:14 am

Let's hope. I'll definitely do my best Very Happy

I'll be testing the list this weekend. I've simulated different scenarios and it should do well in most and vs most opponents as long as I can have a couple of turns of long range shooting. The tricky opponents would be those that have a lot of deep strikers (like drop pods) and infiltrators. I'll post the batreps after the weekend.

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Re: North American 40K Tournament

Post by Aubec le noir on Fri Jun 11, 2010 10:07 am

or fast tanks with big fire power like Eldars or Blood Angels
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Re: North American 40K Tournament

Post by Brother Ezekiel on Fri Jun 11, 2010 10:56 am

Lets hope you kick less heretic ass and more xeno and daemon ass.Not that I mind other traitors being killed,since we do it all the time,for territorial disputes,sectors to raid,yeah I once had to battle 4 different traitor armies for the chance to actually get to killing Imperial and by the time I actually got so far,there were GK and IG(girls) everywhere,so I decided after a few short battles to skip and go to the other sector(this was an interesting campaing we did a while back)

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Re: North American 40K Tournament

Post by Rivan on Fri Jun 11, 2010 11:08 am

Razz There's actually only a few heretic armies in the GW store I go to...more xenos, SM and IG.

I'm actually hoping to play the same eldar player I went up against last time he he Very Happy

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Re: North American 40K Tournament

Post by raven925 on Fri Jun 11, 2010 11:55 am

The manager was telling me he was going to be in the tourny but, he needed to get his army finished. i want to face him so bad in the next round.... i want to rip his chaos army apart Evil or Very Mad

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Post by Brother Ezekiel on Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:37 pm

raven925 wrote:i want to rip his chaos army apart Evil or Very Mad

Damn you zealot

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Re: North American 40K Tournament

Post by raven925 on Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:58 pm

Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

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Re: North American 40K Tournament

Post by Brother Ezekiel on Fri Jun 11, 2010 1:10 pm

Sometimes you loyalist scum are more ruthless than me.

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Re: North American 40K Tournament

Post by raven925 on Fri Jun 11, 2010 1:18 pm

Brother Ezekiel wrote:Sometimes you loyalist scum are more ruthless than me.

I have to be to keep people like you in check, Twisted Evil

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