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2000 Tourney List - Pure Grey Knight Fury! (used to be 1850)

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Post by Aeddon Wed Mar 24, 2010 7:09 am

There's gonna be a tourney in the local area in a couple months and I got to thinking that this might be my one and only time to play with our 3rd ed codex so here's my attempt at a tourney list.
Now I don't have the list that I wrote in front of me now but here is what I've got so far.

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Grand Master
Nemesis Force Weapon/Psycannon
Psychic Hood
-retinue 3 Terminators
-1 Thunderhammer/Storm Shield
-1 Nemesis Force Weapon/Incinerator
-1 Nemesis Force Weapon/Storm Bolter

Brother-Captain Stern
-retinue 3 Terminators
-1 Thunderhammer/Storm Shield
-1 Nemesis Force Weapon/Incinerator
-1 Nemesis Force Weapon/Storm Bolter

TROOPS
Justicar
Targeter
-6 Grey Knights
-2 Psycannon
-4 Nemesis Force Weapon/Storm Bolter

Justicar
Targeter
-6 Grey Knights
-1 Incinerator
-5 Nemesis Force Weapon/Storm Bolter

Justicar
Targeter
-6 Grey Knights
-1 Incinerator
-5 Nemesis Force Weapon/Storm Bolter

HEAVY SUPPORT
Land Raider
Smoke Launchers

Land Raider Crusader
Smoke Launchers

TACTICS
The Psycannon squad sits in the rear (on an objective if there is one) and takes pop-shots at the enemy. The two other squads ride in the Land Raiders and snatch other objectives when they are able while the GK in TDA teleport in and cause as much carnage as possible.


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Post by MJSwasey Wed Mar 24, 2010 5:30 pm

heh grey knight furries. big bad grey knights in bear costumes.....

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Post by Aeddon Wed Mar 24, 2010 5:39 pm

lol, damned typo...
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Post by NemesisForce Wed Mar 24, 2010 8:30 pm

Looks good though I'd prefer the GKT's to ride the Raiders. But that's just me. I highly recommend some extra armor for the LR. Nothing more irritating than not being able to make your rush because of a lousy Stunned result.
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Post by MJSwasey Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:02 pm

our EA is cheap and more important than smoke, imo

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Post by Aubec le noir Thu Mar 25, 2010 4:18 am

strong army.
you like the incinerators (i prefer the psycannons but that's my taste Wink )
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Post by Titus Thu Mar 25, 2010 4:54 am

Personally for the unit that will 'camp' in the rear, i would drop two PAGK and add two psycannons for a total of 4 psycannons and the justicar. i also would turn the LR crusader into a standard pattern, the LR's are your only anti-tank
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Post by MJSwasey Thu Mar 25, 2010 6:32 am

but a troops choice can only have 2 psycannons.

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Post by Titus Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:22 am

I forgot to add make them a purgation squad. and for some reason i was thinking there were 4 troop squads but there isnt. well never mind...but if there had been....
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Post by Aeddon Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:57 am

I'm not too keen on using Purgation squads, the point hike is a bit much. I'm also not at a fiscal place where I could get a second GHLR, I like the LRC anyway, fits well with the way I play it (hang back until the end and rush forward guns blazing to take objectives/kill stuff).

On top of that it turns out that it will be a 2000 point tourney, not 1850 so my list needs to be reworked anyway. New post soon!
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Post by Musashi Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:52 am

Titus wrote:I forgot to add make them a purgation squad. and for some reason i was thinking there were 4 troop squads but there isnt. well never mind...but if there had been....

You could compromise and take 3 psycannons in the unit but keep it a troop choice.

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5 PAGK
2 psycannons

you miss out on one guy, but you can camp on your home objective and hold it...

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Post by the bringer of death Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:06 am

would the justicar lost the power wep
if he takes a psycannon
i may do this
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Post by Aeddon Thu Mar 25, 2010 12:58 pm

Can't do it, page 16
"Grey Knights in power armour may only choose items from the Wargear list, they are well trained in blessed weaponry of their order and are forbidden to use lesser items."
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Post by Aubec le noir Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:27 pm

there's a loop between the PA rule and the possibility of the justicar to buy artificer armour which is OR NOT an PA ... but i think it's too much for me
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Post by MJSwasey Thu Mar 25, 2010 8:04 pm

It's super cheesy rules lawyering. Some claim that you can buy things at different times, so you can buy artificer armor then your not in Power armor, THEN you can buy the psycannon.

Most people believe everything is bought at once so you cant do it, and they believe it would be an extreme twisting of the rules to even try it.

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Post by NemesisForce Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:07 pm

As much as I hate loopholing, swapping for a psycannon doesn't rankle me as much. At least it's keeping it within the 'blessed weaponry' GK's use and isn't a blatant abuse of the 'spirit' of the rule.
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Post by Musashi Fri Mar 26, 2010 2:18 am

No he wont lose his NFW by buying a Psycannon, but yeah, iots uber cheesy and you wont make friends buy doing

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Post by Aeddon Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:47 am

Here's the 2000 point list...

HQ
Grand Master
Nemesis Force Weapon(Master-Crafted)/Psycannon
Icon of the Just
Psychic Hood
Urgent of Warding
Holocaust
-retinue 3 Terminators
-1 Thunderhammer/Storm Shield
-1 Nemesis Force Weapon/Incinerator
-1 Nemesis Force Weapon/Storm Bolter
-Holocaust

Brother-Captain Stern
+attached to Elite squad

ELITE
Brother-Captain
Daemonhammer/Storm Bolter
-2 Terminators
-1 Nemesis Force Weapon/Incinerator
-1 Nemesis Force Weapon/Storm Bolter
-Holocaust

TROOPS
Justicar
Targeter
Frag/Krak
-6 Grey Knights
-2 Psycannon
-4 Nemesis Force Weapon/Storm Bolter

Justicar
Frag/Melta
-6 Grey Knights
-1 Incinerator
-5 Nemesis Force Weapon/Storm Bolter

Justicar
Frag/Melta
-6 Grey Knights
-1 Incinerator
-5 Nemesis Force Weapon/Storm Bolter

HEAVY SUPPORT
Land Raider
Extra Armour
Smoke Launchers

Land Raider Crusader
Smoke Launchers

TACTICS
Pretty much same as before. Comes to 1999 points. I was thinking about splitting up the psycannons and adding an extra one so there is one in each squad but thought I might get better use of the in the mini-purg squad. Thoughts?
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Post by For the Emperor Fri Mar 26, 2010 7:33 am

Can't the Grandmaster have an Incinerator or Combi-melta? These weapons suit his style which is up close and personnel.
Wouldn't you rather have your GK in the Land Raider and a fully loaded GKT w/ Grandmaster in the LRC?
Just a few pointers.


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Post by Aeddon Fri Mar 26, 2010 7:52 am

I like taking advantage of the GM's BS5 so I gave him the psycannon (plus it's how he's modelled). My intent it to have the majority of my army be able to get in the enemies face with the TDA Grey Knights doing most of the dirty work so that's why I've got the PAGK's in the Land Raiders.

I'm not trying to argue and I do appreciate the comments. Thanks.
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Post by NemesisForce Fri Mar 26, 2010 10:57 pm

2K list looks good though I personally think the GM and ret have a wee bit too much bling. If you drop the master-craft, Unguents and one Holocaust it will almost give you enough points for two more GK's. Remember that kraks are S6, the same as a Justicar. Kraks get only one attempt compared to a Justicar's 3 with his NFW. Targeters for your other squads would be a better bet.
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Post by Titus Sat Mar 27, 2010 12:02 am

And remember according to 5th ed rules, no matter which side you assault on a vehicle its counted against rear armor value. So a standard grey knights strength 6 has a fair chance against most vehicles.
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Post by Aubec le noir Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:57 am

oh ... yes i forgot that too scratch
Details ... everything i sin the details !! Twisted Evil
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