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1500p of stern and no landraiders

Post by the bringer of death on Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:32 pm

here is a 1500p Grey Knight army and would like your thoughts on it
so here go's

Stern
5 X term's
with 1 x psycannon and 1 x TH/SH



8 Man Grey Knights
with Justicar and Frag

8 Man Grey Knights
with Justicar and Frag

5 Man Grey Knight
With Justicar and 2 x Psycannon Frag

5 man stormtrooper
with 2 x Meltaguns
in a chimera with M Laster , H Bolter and storm bolter

Dreadnought
M M and H Flamer
Dreadnought
M M and Incincrator
in a drop pod

can grey knights work with no landraiders

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Re: 1500p of stern and no landraiders

Post by MJSwasey on Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:24 pm

GK can definitely work without LR. Just have to make excellent use of cover against any ap3. And your list would have to get the opponent to agree to let you use the imperial armor books.

I like to do 1-2 Las/missle dreads with no LR, or one las missle one CCW melta, but if you can use drop pods melta is probably best.

i've even experimented with the Orbital strikes. taking two melta strikes can force you opponent to shy away from cover or (once he knows what side they are on) force him towards your force. try em, theyre not uber powerful, but ALOT of fun.

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Re: 1500p of stern and no landraiders

Post by NemesisForce on Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:41 pm

The list looks good. My only suggestion would be to give your Dreads tllc's instead. You'll have to get in close with the multi-meltas and they'll be taking a lot of a/t fire themselves to do it. Since they're your main armor it might be better to snipe at range. Change your frags to a targeter in the psycannon squad as well.

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Re: 1500p of stern and no landraiders

Post by Rivan on Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:44 pm

That's a pretty solid list IMO. Agree with Brother NF, I would at least give the dread that's not drop podding in a TWLLC so you have one AT from long range. I love the MM on the dread in a drop pod (assuming your opponent is okay w/ FW rules as Brother MJS mentioned) Very Happy

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Re: 1500p of stern and no landraiders

Post by the bringer of death on Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:26 am

The dred not in a pod should have had twin las and ML and the psycannon unit do's have a targeter
I still am not feeling the drop pod dread I am thinking of droping him but unshour what to swop him for

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Re: 1500p of stern and no landraiders

Post by Rivan on Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:13 am

If you're really going to drop the dread w/ the DP, a little more adjustments and you can have a LR or LRC. I think LR/LRC in a 1500 point game is quite beneficial since it will provide either your HQ squad or 1 of your PAGK squads some mobility.

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Re: 1500p of stern and no landraiders

Post by the bringer of death on Fri Oct 30, 2009 7:08 am

I have found that a one LD is to much of a target and with so many MM and M guns about but i will look in to it
on a side should i deep strike or walk in the trems

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Re: 1500p of stern and no landraiders

Post by Rivan on Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:06 am

If you have a LR and deploy it properly, you won't have to worry about MM and M guns too much as they have far shorter range. A LRC would be subject to more threats because it has to close w/ opponents to bring its weapons to bear.

DS has its uses but personally, I don't like risking my costly units to possible DS mishaps. I also dislike relying on the random turn they come in at. Lastly, with our army outnumbered most of the time, I prefer to have my forces readily available from turn 1.
However, it doesn't mean I'm just going to foot slog them forward. I've shot down SM terminators with SB so I know that GKTs can and will go down too if they're subject to enough shooting. I guess everything really depends on how you move them and utilize LOS and cover.
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Re: 1500p of stern and no landraiders

Post by the bringer of death on Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:58 am

I have a game tonight it will be grey knights v sisters so should be good
i will try running them tonight and see how it go's

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Re: 1500p of stern and no landraiders

Post by Rivan on Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:08 am

Good luck! I sometimes use Sisters as allies for my GKs, don't underestimate them Razz

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Re: 1500p of stern and no landraiders

Post by NemesisForce on Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:35 pm

Actually, I missed seeing the drop pod for the one Dread. He should definitely keep the m-m in that case. Good luck on your match. Remember though not to refer to them as bolter-bitches if they still have any Faith points left.

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Re: 1500p of stern and no landraiders

Post by Primarch on Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:50 am

I agree with Rivan, Sisters of battle are an excellent addition to a grey knights army. They have a similar theme and points wise are very good value. Compared to a stormtrooper, 1 extra point buys you power armour and a bolter (1+ S over hellguns)

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Re: 1500p of stern and no landraiders

Post by the bringer of death on Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:32 am

good game last night got the win
8 pack killed crak one off(lord karamazov) and a penitent engine a bit of luck helped
not i think i will be DP the trem's as they did not do that much (made a drew a win)
side not i hate ap 1 bolters/h flamers and 3+inv saves

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Re: 1500p of stern and no landraiders

Post by Rivan on Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:20 am

Congratulations! So you had a taste of Divine Guidance and Spirit of the Martyr huh Razz

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