Ready your Psycannons for the Daemons arrival

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Ready your Psycannons for the Daemons arrival

Post by belissand on Fri Mar 21, 2008 11:33 am

Psycannos and Incinerators will ROCK! against this new army, only very few units have 3+ save
- bloodthirster
- Heralds
- Demon princes
- feel no pain units

after that every other unit will get obliterated against us

Pack you Anointed weapon to get 2d6 againts the soulgrinder (13/13/11)

And also pack and inquisitor with sanctuary since everything on that list has Demon Rule.

There will be blood... demon blood, I hope that affects the consideration of revising the DH codex (maybe a good selling campaing on daemons will be the thing).

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Re: Ready your Psycannons for the Daemons arrival

Post by NemesisForce on Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:23 pm

Well, I like your optimism belissand. DH players on other forums seem to think we'll be less effective against the new Daemons. Another rumor I read (emphasize 'rumor') is since these particular Daemons are not summoned they don't have to take instability tests. I think you're right about dusting off the incinerators and psycannons. Plain ol' cleansing firepower will surely be on the menu.
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Re: Ready your Psycannons for the Daemons arrival

Post by Dvil on Fri Mar 21, 2008 7:16 pm

I've heard that khorne can allow his followers to ignore psycic powers or force weapons on a 2+

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Post by Brother_Marine on Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:16 pm

IF that happens, that that is bullshit. What's the point of them? then.
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Re: Ready your Psycannons for the Daemons arrival

Post by belissand on Sat Mar 22, 2008 12:54 am

Blessing of khorne gives a 2+inv save agains psy powers and force weapons. But that works on a very cc oriented army which will have to bypass the difficult terrain test to assault, and it wouldn't be a bad idea to give sancuary to your inquisitor (since everything there has de daemon rule, even the soulgrinder)

BTW soulgrinder 13/13/11 CC oriented, not much range, cost like the normal chaos spider.

An other reason to dust out you anointed weapon (2d6 vs him)[/img]

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Re: Ready your Psycannons for the Daemons arrival

Post by NemesisForce on Sat Mar 22, 2008 3:06 pm

It'll be interesting to see how many Daemon armies pop up after the codex release. For a tournie I don't think I'd want to stack up on a bunch of anti-Daemon wargear and have to field less bodies because of it. If you don't actually go up against one or two Daemon armies those would be points well-wasted. Anybody planning to pick up the Daemon codex just know thy enemy?
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Re: Ready your Psycannons for the Daemons arrival

Post by Brother-Captain Validi on Sat Mar 22, 2008 6:07 pm

I don't have the cash, and I'd rather find out as I played against them (if ever!). Might make it more fun/vexing!
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Re: Ready your Psycannons for the Daemons arrival

Post by SIRSEAN on Tue Mar 25, 2008 1:50 pm

2+?

WTF is going on?

(sorry, but... I guess you are agree)

But...

we have to give GW a chance...

I still hope that they release soon the new inquisition codex, with all the armies (demon, withc and alien hunters) and I also hope that we can finally have a competitive army.

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Re: Ready your Psycannons for the Daemons arrival

Post by belissand on Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:18 pm

One thing that I haven' t considered is how useless a Psy Hood will be against them, because they don't have Psy powers, they have "Gifts" which doesn' t need a Psy test (lash with no test, Gift of chaos with no test, etc)

I'm reading the 2+ gift of khorne as a "save" which means that he gets 2+ save for every force weapon hit, but if he fails even once there is no stopping the Force weapon to kill outright unless the new " daemon" rule states otherwise (for instance the DP in this new dex don' t have the ethernal warrior rule).

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Re: Ready your Psycannons for the Daemons arrival

Post by Klomster on Wed Mar 26, 2008 9:26 pm

Are they immune to instant death?

If so the roumured force weapon attack becoming instant death will suck.

Even more.

2+ save is everything that is broken, twize.

Bloody enemies.

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Re: Ready your Psycannons for the Daemons arrival

Post by Brother-Captain Validi on Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:10 pm

If it is an invulnerable save, then what would Scourging do? (Psychic attack which ignores invulrerable saves.)
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Re: Ready your Psycannons for the Daemons arrival

Post by Justicar Dionitas on Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:05 pm

Are they getting rid of the Collar of Khorne? That's pretty much the same thing as the Blessing of Khorne. I've never heard of a Force weapon being nullified by this. To deal with this, you'll just have to add some shootiness to your army. As it stands, all daemons have inv save. Like said before, beef up on the incinerators and psycannons. Can't asscanns have psybolts too?

I'm pretty much resigned to the fact that Daemonhunters will be among the last to recieve a codex update.

Scourging would be, I assume, RaW If it ingnores invulnerable save then it ignores them. I see your point though. I think then maybe the nullifacation of a pschic power probably takes precedance.

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Re: Ready your Psycannons for the Daemons arrival

Post by belissand on Fri Mar 28, 2008 3:48 am

Normal daemons won' t be much of a problem, but delaling with Greater daemons and Daemon princes will be like dealing with an army of Carnifexes with wings.

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Re: Ready your Psycannons for the Daemons arrival

Post by NemesisForce on Sun Mar 30, 2008 3:35 am

Was just taking a boo at the upcoming Daemon models on the GW UK site. Other than the Soulgrinder I thought I was looking at the Warhammer Fantasy section. Even some of the Greater Daemon models are the same ones as for WHF. I guess that's to be expected as Daemons wouldn't really have Dreads, vehicles and the like. Daemonettes on bikes would be cool though.

Edit: Ah, it all makes sense now. Didn't realize GW was releasing a WHF Daemons Codex as well. Very frugal of them. There seems to be more fantasy than 40K in them though.
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Re: Ready your Psycannons for the Daemons arrival

Post by belissand on Sun Mar 30, 2008 5:22 am

2 birds 1 stone... who was stone? that's 4 you to find out.

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