as you know, the real origin of the GK is still a mistery... and that's good and bad: good because you can create nice backgrounds, but bad, because we don't have a primarch, nor official background books...

I hear lots of rumors:

-we are sons of the Emperor himself (the REAL Emperor's Children)
-we are the reult of a DNA soup, made with the gens of the 7 betrayers...
-we are the sons of one of the two lost primarchs (BTW, do you believe that Sigmar is the other?)
-we are sons of a captain of the Iron Warriors, who was the only one able to resist the chaos influence (I hope we are not, because that make us sons of perturabo... what an ugly name!)

what do you think?

We should be of the emperors own flesh.

Not a mix of traitors, that would be.... bad.

Not really, Only 1 of those traitors was the real Villian, the other 6 just subsided because they fealt there alligance lyed more with Warmaster Horus Rather than the Emporer. And personally, I think they did what they thought was best, the Emporer was back on Terra adn they had only the Warmaster to turn to.


And, The 7 triaitors may not be traitors, they could be loyalists that belonged to a traitor Legion (Many loyalist Astrates from the legions that turned to Chaos were accussed of being traitors and executed). So Its not all as bad as that may suggest.

But still, grey knights based on world eaters?

Not the noble and calm person of steel faith i had in mind when thinking of grey knights.

I would say that theres most fluff to support the idea that we where made from the emperors own gene-seed.

Since it was he that ordered them to be made just after the battle against horus.

Or it could be Battle Captain Garro (A Loyalist from the Death Guard), A fictional Warhammer 40k charecter taken from the Horus Heresy Book, 'The Flight Of The Enisenstine'. At the very end its said that him and the unit are assigned a special duty to find and destroy Pyskers (This is duting a period of time that all Pyskers were considered witches), Witches and deadly Xenos. It could be Battle Captain Garro's DNA, No-one truly knows.

I think he will become the inquisition.

Grey knights are as far as i know 2nd founding secret dudes.

That's after the heresy.

Would you take someone with the almost same dna and ideas as thousands of traitors and put them into a superefficient überfaithful fighting force to hunt the very things that made their brethren fall???

I wouldn't do that!

Well, Just because he is, he was unwaved by the opportunitys of chaos, infact, he was more disgusted by it. His loyalty to the Emporer was more than many loyalist marines that wern't directly under the command of Horus. Battle Captain Garro risked his life just to tell the Emporer of Horus' trechury, A man like that is deserving of a battle command and Terminator Honours. Most Marines would have just fallen to Chaos, but Battle Captain Garro risked everything against the odds, THATS loyalty.

Captain Garro?

I have to research that man!

and another one, from wikipedia:

Another possible source for their gene-seed is a purified 'cocktail' of the eight loyal Space Marines from the traitor legions, presented to the Emperor by Malcador the Sigillite, during the Siege of the Emperor's Palace. Malcador had been charged by the Emperor to gather a group of people whose loyalty, courage and strength of mind was unquestionable. The resulting eight marines possessed paranormal skills that were kept dormant (in respect of the Council of Nikaea's previous ruling) and had cast aside former loyalty to legion and Primarch. The Emperor is believed to have responded, "Malcador, you have judged well. These eight Space Marines do indeed have a vital role to play in the future of the Imperium, though veiled in secrecy will they be."

Yes, I suppose the few loyalist surviors of Istavan III could have been amoung those 8, such as, Captain Loken, and Captain Tarvitz.


Also, This taken from a Passage on Wikipedia:
"The fate of the Eisenstein survivors is unknown. Sequestered on Luna in a tower belonging to the Silent Sisterhood after arrival in system, Garro, the rest of his Death Guard, Iacton Qruze of the Luna Wolves, and the warriors of the Silent Sisterhood faced one of the Death Guard who had succumbed to Nurgle. Afterwards, Garro and Captain Qruze were met by Malcador the Sigillite, First of the Council of Terra and the Emperor's Regent, who informed them that the Emperor had need of people of strong of will and as "inquisitive" as they. These marines are thought to be the founding members of the Inquisition and the militant arm of their Ordo Malleus - the Grey Knights."

Mhmmmm, if that's from gw, it looks like it's the death guard and company from the eisenstein that is the founding of our beloved knights.

Maybe it's this, AND the emperors flesh. To make the new initiates a bit more awesome!

I think that the Grey Knights were made using the Emperors Dna, just because they are too awsome to be made from anything else! (just as 1 Space Marine is worth 10 normal people, 1 Grey Knight is worth 10 Space Marines (I think))

One space marine worth 10 people???

Change that too 100, or 1000.

Marines in books is all that they are not on the tabletop.

Mega-awesome.

And grey knights are as we know, better than regular marines.

Did you know that a space marine actually got scared and ran away when Angron charged him and a few others?

Read the Horus heresy series and see all the things a grey knights would never do.

Like run away from a blood crazed primarch with a chainaxe twise the size of you (If you were a space marine)

The info about Garro founding the GKs is correct. Why do you guys think I added a pre-heresy Death Guard icon to the avatar options all those months ago?

Maybe you like death guard?

Or maybe you like too give the players that play both death guard and knights to be able to choose the icon as an avatar on the site?

Maybe both?